If it had anything to do with electoralism you wouldn’t be whinging about this 3 and a half years before the next election
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First, there’s no guarantee that the next election will matter at all.
Second, the issue is much deeper - namely, the exact kind of ‘bothsides’ bullshit that leads people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice of two in an election will certainly lead people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice in issues of action that require something greater than an hour of a single day of their life.
Third, why the fuck would you wait until the last minute to address an issue? If there is an outstanding issue that leftists seem to believe that losing and letting marginalized groups be murdered is preferable to picking the lesser evil, why should that not be addressed immediately instead of ten seconds before the next electoral circus?
the exact kind of ‘bothsides’ bullshit that leads people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice of two in an election will certainly lead people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice in issues of action that require something greater than an hour of a single day of their life.
LMFAO, get the fuck out of here with that white moderate bullshit. Are you serious?? Lol I can’t get over this. It’s like if you took MLK’s ‘the Negro’s great stumbling block’ quote and just removed the part about white moderates. Even he knew that the movement’s greatest hurtle wasn’t the actual-fucking KKK, but the democrats who continuously told them that ‘now is not the time’. Lmao. Yes, both sides are bad, that’s why we’re fucking pointing it out so we can fix it. What an absolute dipshit revisionist you are.
why the fuck would you wait until the last minute to address an issue?
Oh, did you just not understand what I was talking about? I’m pointing to your complaints about ‘bothsiders’ pointing to glaring issues within the democratic party. Yea, of-fucking-course now is the time to address these issues. That’s why it’s fucking crazy that you picked now to meme about ‘bothsiders’ drumming up inter-party tension well away from any of our next elections. This is when the tension needs to happen.
Fucking make up your mind lmao, is it good or bad to drum up tension about the bad shit in the democratic party, and is it good or bad right now? Do we have your permission? Is now a good time?
LMFAO, get the fuck out of here with that white moderate bullshit. Are you serious?? Lol I can’t get over this. It’s like if you took MLK’s ‘the Negro’s great stumbling block’ quote and just removed the part about white moderates.
… because I point out that people who purity test themselves out of cooperating with potential allies over when minimal effort is required on their part will do the same thing when major effort is required on their part?
Fucking what?
Even he knew that the movement’s greatest hurtle wasn’t the actual-fucking KKK, but the democrats who continuously told them that ‘now is not the time’. Lmao.
Which is why he made sure to oppose LBJ, right?
Yes, both sides are bad, that’s why we’re fucking pointing it out so we can fix it.
But with zero interest in doing anything productive to fix it, of course.
What an absolute dipshit revisionist you are.
Ironic, considering that MLK, a socialist, worked with LBJ, despite the Dems being much more gruesome and despicable then.
Guess he was just too much of a shitlib to understand politics on the enlightened level you do.
Oh, did you just not understand what I was talking about? I’m pointing to your complaints about ‘bothsiders’ pointing to glaring issues within the democratic party.
Already pointed out that criticism of the Dems isn’t what’s being criticized here, but whatever you need to confirm the paranoia that I’m a Fed or a warhawk or whatever it is that you’ve got going on.
… because I point out that people who purity test themselves out of cooperating with potential allies over when minimal effort is required on their part will do the same thing when major effort is required on their part?
No, because binary categories themselves are what stop insufficiently-motivated liberals like yourself from doing the right thing at all. You’re the one trying to shove activists into a box and calling them right-wingers. The only one advocating for a purity test is you LMFAO. The lack of self-awareness is fucking incredible.
Which is why he made sure to oppose LBJ, right?
Only because he was already amicable to his cause. You think the democrats deserve the same charitability when they’ve roundly rejected ours? Besides, if they deserved any leeway previously when they were in power, they sure as fuck don’t deserve it now
Ironic, considering that MLK, a socialist, worked with LBJ, despite the Dems being much more gruesome and despicable then.
He worked with people who were willing to work with him - democrats are far less willing to negotiate than LBJ ever was. Maybe the next lot will be more sensible.
Already pointed out that criticism of the Dems isn’t what’s being criticized here, but whatever you need to confirm the paranoia that I’m a Fed or a warhawk or whatever it is that you’ve got going on.
I don’t think you are a fed, just that you’re the most thumb-sounding self-described ‘leftist’ I’ve ever seen on lemmy. And no, not ‘criticism of dems’, just criticism directed at the dems that also apply to republicans, because that’s apparently not very fair to your feelings.
If it had anything to do with electoralism you wouldn’t be whinging about this 3 and a half years before the next election
…
First, there’s no guarantee that the next election will matter at all.
Second, the issue is much deeper - namely, the exact kind of ‘bothsides’ bullshit that leads people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice of two in an election will certainly lead people to abstain from siding with the less-vile choice in issues of action that require something greater than an hour of a single day of their life.
Third, why the fuck would you wait until the last minute to address an issue? If there is an outstanding issue that leftists seem to believe that losing and letting marginalized groups be murdered is preferable to picking the lesser evil, why should that not be addressed immediately instead of ten seconds before the next electoral circus?
LMFAO, get the fuck out of here with that white moderate bullshit. Are you serious?? Lol I can’t get over this. It’s like if you took MLK’s ‘the Negro’s great stumbling block’ quote and just removed the part about white moderates. Even he knew that the movement’s greatest hurtle wasn’t the actual-fucking KKK, but the democrats who continuously told them that ‘now is not the time’. Lmao. Yes, both sides are bad, that’s why we’re fucking pointing it out so we can fix it. What an absolute dipshit revisionist you are.
Oh, did you just not understand what I was talking about? I’m pointing to your complaints about ‘bothsiders’ pointing to glaring issues within the democratic party. Yea, of-fucking-course now is the time to address these issues. That’s why it’s fucking crazy that you picked now to meme about ‘bothsiders’ drumming up inter-party tension well away from any of our next elections. This is when the tension needs to happen.
Fucking make up your mind lmao, is it good or bad to drum up tension about the bad shit in the democratic party, and is it good or bad right now? Do we have your permission? Is now a good time?
… because I point out that people who purity test themselves out of cooperating with potential allies over when minimal effort is required on their part will do the same thing when major effort is required on their part?
Fucking what?
Which is why he made sure to oppose LBJ, right?
But with zero interest in doing anything productive to fix it, of course.
Ironic, considering that MLK, a socialist, worked with LBJ, despite the Dems being much more gruesome and despicable then.
Guess he was just too much of a shitlib to understand politics on the enlightened level you do.
Already pointed out that criticism of the Dems isn’t what’s being criticized here, but whatever you need to confirm the paranoia that I’m a Fed or a warhawk or whatever it is that you’ve got going on.
No, because binary categories themselves are what stop insufficiently-motivated liberals like yourself from doing the right thing at all. You’re the one trying to shove activists into a box and calling them right-wingers. The only one advocating for a purity test is you LMFAO. The lack of self-awareness is fucking incredible.
Only because he was already amicable to his cause. You think the democrats deserve the same charitability when they’ve roundly rejected ours? Besides, if they deserved any leeway previously when they were in power, they sure as fuck don’t deserve it now
He worked with people who were willing to work with him - democrats are far less willing to negotiate than LBJ ever was. Maybe the next lot will be more sensible.
I don’t think you are a fed, just that you’re the most thumb-sounding self-described ‘leftist’ I’ve ever seen on lemmy. And no, not ‘criticism of dems’, just criticism directed at the dems that also apply to republicans, because that’s apparently not very fair to your feelings.
lol
Lol is right