cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43498121
There were many disheartening moments during the 2024 U.S. presidential campaign for progressives who support Palestinian rights. Yet few were quite as deflating as that moment when the ostensibly progressive, leading member of The Squad, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stood at the podium at the Democratic National Convention and told the audience that then-Vice President Kamala Harris was “working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza and bring the hostages home.”
We knew she was lying. AOC herself knew she was lying. But it was just the message that the crowd—who were more than eager to show their support for the Democrats despite the party’s utter refusal to allow even the most conciliatory and moderate Palestinian voice to be heard—wanted to hear, and they ate it up.
The utterly shameless nature of the lie has now been confirmed by no less than nine officials from Joe Biden’s administration and reported on by Israel’s own Channel 13 news program, Hamakor, which, aptly, translates as “The Source.”
There are more downvotes than up so far, and I can’t tell of that’s because this is misleading, or because people don’t like it- full disclosure I don’t know a ton about this situation
Is there context this post is missing, or info that would help people better understand the situation accurately?
Thanks :)
Because Gaza is only bad when Trump does it. .world is suddenly against the genocide when Trump does it.
When Biden sends more bombs than any president before him, it’s actually working really hard on a ceasefire. Please ignore how more money and more weapons are sent each time. Please ignore the pleas for help from victims, they’re a psyop or a Russian bot.
And if you ask “Why are we aiding in mass murder?” You’re called a single issue voter and they never ended your support in the first place.
Mondoweiss is a sensationalized rag (and that’s me being charitable). The fact that this was posted by the top mod of this community has ruined the entire community’s credibility in my eyes.
hate group designation by third-party pro-Israel advocates
This means nothing. “Palestinians deserve to live in peace” is designated as “hate speech”.
Ok, let’s flip that around then. Does this make it any better?
Overall, we rate Mondoweiss as Left Biased and Questionable due to the blending of opinion with news, the promotion of pro-zionist and anti-Palestinian propaganda, occasional reliance on poor sources, and hate group designation by third-party pro-Palestinian advocates.
Trick question: it does not. Reputable outlets do not put their thumb on the scale in either direction. Just because you agree with their bias does not make them credible.
Nobody complains when I post one of thousands of fact checks on shit Donald trump says, but the Dems are real touchy.
It’s not what you’re posting but where you’re posting it from and their track record. Post it from a less biased, less sensationalized, more reputable source and I would guess those complaints will largely go away.
Nobody complains when I post one of thousands of fact checks
Those have all been from credible sources.
What don’t you like about Mondoweiss?
I notice you aren’t disputing the facts here, just the source.
This article touches on many of the same talking points if it’s more to your liking in terms of “credibility” rating. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/aoc-dnc-speech-gaza/
If it covers the same talking points, why not post it instead of destroying this community’s credibility with this rag?
Giving a garbo source the benefit of the doubt on an article-by-article basis just muddies the waters and gives an air of undeserved legitimacy to other things they publish.
Credibility and trust are built over time; throwing out a “look, THIS article is okay” every so often does not make them a credible source.
If the facts are solid, then there should be at least one other reputable source reporting on them. If only a sensationalist rag is covering it, maybe ask why that is.
I notice you aren’t disputing the facts here, just the source.
This is the same argument I’ve seen used by people trying to legitimize Fox News and RT, BTW.
Mondoweiss is highly credible. You just don’t like the fact that they have been critical of the Israeli occupation and apartheid even before the genocide in Gaza.
Edit: mediabiasfactcheck is awfully wrong it is a shame people trust it. It clearly has pro-Zionist and anti-Palestinian bias. Zionism is a violent and racist ideology and the Palestinians have a right to self defense even through armed struggle.
No, really? The party of shy genocide wanted to keep doing genocide while pretending they were doing anything whatsoever to stop or slow it?
At least this might shut up the neolibs still pretending Gaza is worse off with trump.
Liberals are team players. If their team engages in genocide then they will find a way to rationalize that genocide is justified. They are just like conservatives in that regard just cheer on a different team.
At least this might shut up the neolibs still pretending Gaza is worse off with trump.
Yeah, Gaza is doing great under Trump, right?
‘wahhh orange genocidal maniac worse than white genocidal maniac wahhhh’
They’re objectively the same.
