Perhaps everyone gets it, but for some who might not, this is genuinely the last thing you should do.
And they won’t just tell you to fuck off (~go piss on a transformer is the literal translation but it’s just a way of saying fuck off), some of them would actively start a fight right there on the fucking bus.
It’s true that it’s not something we feel comfortable doing, but I think you’re going pretty over the top with this one :D
We wouldn’t fight anyone for invading our private space. Nor would we really tell them to fuck off. We would simply sulk in uncomfortable silence through the trip and very awkwardly and apologetically ask the person to move their shit when it’s our stop.
Later we would warmly think about the deep and personal friendship we made along the way.
So while your described reaction is much more common, I agree, mine isn’t even an exaggeration but a personal experience:
I don’t know where you live but I told off a junkie on the bus for starting sing karaoke in a bus filled to the brim at 14.00.
He started instantly making literal death threats. My stop luckily came up. He followed me out of the car to fight me. I didn’t even notice it. Luckily I went inside to buy something. I was the counter when he came from behind me, pushed me, started going for a fight.
I told the clerk to call the police because I didn’t want to fight that scrawny junkie, because while he may not remember me I’ve drunk with him once. A former neighbour who had done 10 years for murder. Pretty okay dude, I only felt threatened once when someone stole 500g of meth from him and he thought I might have let someone into the storage rooms. I hadn’t.
Anyway, that’s who this guy used to be friend with.
So I don’t want take my chances in getting stuck with some rusty knife.
So yeah, that shit does happen. That’s just the most recent example, from a few weeks ago.
Go to any of the major cities and take the worst buslines for a day or two or just on the weekend.
Bro literally had an altercation with a methhead and said “Damn these finns sure are an unfriendly bunch”
Most of the people on this line are addicts of some sort.
This one — while being a meth head — was not on meth, but drunk as a skunk.
Meth don’t make people violent by itself, but added alcohol does (and alcohol does it alone as well), and it’s plenty deep in the culture.
In Finland you piss on a transformer. In Soviet America
Soviet America
Holy shit *stares at words contemplating for 30 minutes straight*
How do you recognize an introvert Finn?
While chatting he is looking at his shoes.
How do you recognize an extrovert Finn?
While chatting he is looking at YOUR shoes.
The Finns were relieved when the covid rules ended. They finally could go back to 6 meters distance instead of 1.5.
Ah, a joke about Finns I actually laughed out loud for. Well done, sir.
According to Google translate:
Perkele - Evil spirit or a version of “god damn”
Mene kusemaan muuntajaan - Go pee on the transformer
Also, the tradition is the exact opposite as I understand.
In Finland they like to be alone and be left alone, so you don’t just intrude on someone if they are in self-isolation.
Yeah that’s the joke.
Or did I miss some sort of elaborate joke-joke?
The worst case scenario in scandinavia when boarding a bus is that it is exactly half full, which obligatory means every double seat is occupied by exectly 1 person, and you must choose which one to annoy (including annoying yourself, if you’re Scandinavian because you too want to sit alone). Standing works, but you must feel shame all the time.
Second way to make friends in Finland: tell them how much you’re enjoying your visit to Scandinavia.
Finland is the canton of Scandinavia I like second most after Sweden so far.
Though I must say Poland was nice too.
I just stand then. Same thing when it is almost half full and I know there’s going to be more people on one of the later stops before I get out, so that I don’t take up anyone’s seat. I always board buses and trains last for this reason.
Screw whoever thought of installing the 4 seat sections that face each other.
Especially a problem in trains where that’s the majority. You get 1 person per 4 seats.
Example:
Fantastic for a family of four though, you block off any intruders possible aggression!
I prefer standing, even on an empty bus. Call me shameless.
I will call you Seumus!
And I will call her Shamus and hand her a Guiness!
At that point you just pull one of those little red hammers off the wall and leave through a window.
TIL the Finns are my people
As an autist, Finnish culture sounds perfect.
Nah, because if you’re silent the wrong way (and no one will ever tell you what that way is or how to be silent correctly) you’ll be ostracized since pre-school and end up socially withdraw whether you want it or not. Or at least that is my experience growing up here as an autist, as well as every other autistic person I know.
Stop romanticizing this place and its laughable excuse for a culture. Most people hate it here, and would much rather live somewhere else were it not for the fact that everywhere else seems to be even fucking worse.
How is that any different from what I experience here then? If I’m dealing with all that crap anyway, then I’d rather do it with people NOT sitting next to me when there’s a whole empty deck on the bus.
Fair enough. I’m mostly arguing with a strawman here, composed of all the content online about how supposedly great this place is, the most egregious being those fucking happiness indexes or whatever. By what I can tell by living here all my life is that the state sucks (as in nothing fucking works like it’s supposed to), the location sucks (cold and/or dark most of the time), and all the people are drunks, depressed and thus hypermedicated, drug addicts, or inbred, xenophobic, racist homophobes. Or depending on how far from the nearest train station you stray a combination of all!
Welcome to Finland, I hate it here.
That’s just like Florida here in US - except it’s hot/muggy and too bright.
A Finn once described the … intensity of ‘perkele’ when used as an insult/curse to me, as: ‘it is worse than ‘horseshit’, it is worse than ‘god damn!’, it is like you or it are worse and worth less and more despicable than flaming diarrhea from Satan himself’.
It’s also handy for scaring away bears
This is why Russia doesn’t invade Finland. Just this guy.
Well, this guy and hundreds if not thousands of guys just like him. Rural Finns are tough as FUCK 😄
This was the first time I heard (saw) someone say it to a Finn and I was like wow what the heck just happened?
This user was pretty chill and then BAM! Insta-rage!
Perkele is the only finish word I know thanks to Robbaz
As a Finn, I can say this is pretty accurate. Perkele is sort of a Finnish folklore version of satan, but the word is most commonly used as an exclamation/general curse word.
I was about to say this is the perfect manual to getting stabbed in that country. ^^
I don’t think we do the stabbing thing much anymore. We’ve lost our puukkojunkkari heritage, sadly.
“Go pee on the transformer” but that sounds like “fuck off and die!”
Oh
Ooooooooh lmfao
Ya fuck the transformers
especially the generative pretrained ones
Lol “go pee on the transformer” with an insult like that finland is basically eastern european.
The Dutch are more concise: “Get cancer!” (Krijg de kanker!).
In the UK, if you ever notice that the guy in front of you has trouble at the urinal, breathe soothingly down his neck and make reassuring tutting noises.
It’s a tradition that dates back to the 10th century
In the US it’s considered polite to hold their dicks for them.
But sometimes this can be uncomfortable… Are you able to just confidently walk up and grab it or do you loudly first ask “DO YOU NEED A HAND?!”
Most of the time this makes them super uncomfortable, which is great! Better them than me. But other times they’re way too okay with it.
stream power is too unpredictable, it always gets in my eye
Especially when they rock a mullet.
In the UK it’s tradition to ignore the queue and rush right to the front of the line.
In order to shake hands with the unemployed
I hear it really help the pee to come out when you stand next to the person and touch your dick to his dick while peeint yourself.
Don’t cross the streams.
That’s considered a compliment in many cultures
These comments do not seem to match the post. I thought we all loved each other at Lemmy. 🧜
There’s a reason it’s the happiest country on earth.
I know a couple of Finns on a discord server. They seem like pretty friendly people to me. I dunno, maybe it helps to have some kind of common interest first? One way I’ve found to meet people–although not always people I want to meet–is to see what other people are bringing to the gun range, and then ask them about what they’ve got, assuming that it’s something neat. That’s how I got to try out a CZ Shadow 2 Compact (…and I’m now waiting for the one I ordered to arrive!), and got to talk to a cool RSO.
I think the Finns I know would be happy to talk about things like that, and would probably even let you shoot a magazine or so.
Vittu Saatana Perkele!
(Thank Robbaz the Swede for teaching swear words in Finnish)
I learned “perkele” from Scandinavia and the World. Although from various context on that site, I always thought it was the equivalent of saying “fuck.”
It’s just a general curse word. I guess vittu would be closer to fuck.
I guess this only applies to lonely Finns.
I have heard enough stories of Indians who get the cold shoulder and are treated unfriendly. It doesn’t matter if someone is fresh off the boat or has been there for over a decade, earned their citizenship, and truly assimilated. Finns just don’t seem interested in connecting with Indians.
I am not blaming the Finns, nor am I trying to criticise the idea of “perkele,” just offering some context.
Finns aren’t interested to connect with anyone once they have left college. They already have their own friend group they know for years or even decades by then. And aren’t interested in making new friends. This isn’t unique to the Finns though this attitude is quite common across Europe. Like I live in the Netherlands and often hear from expats how hard it is to make friends outside the expat community. And then some blame it on racism. But I also hear stories of Dutch people working abroad in Europe in those countries where the expats I know come from and it’s literally the same over there. It’s just that people don’t have the time to invest in new friendships once they enter the workforce and by then they aren’t interested in shallow friendships.
Thanks for the context.
Im unsure if youre pretending not to know this is a joke or if you really dont.
I really don’t.
Finns are infamous for disliking being physically close to each other in public with strangers. You do not intrude on anyone’s personal space, and the volume of that space is worth making jokes about. So being a foreigner is irrelevant in this context, one simply doesn’t sit next to a Finn on a bus. I don’t know what the translation is of the OP post, but I’m sure it’s rude.
Thanks for explaining.
Indeed. For the Finns, the hardest part of the coronavirus pandemic was adjusting to 2m of social distancing, down from their preferred distance of 5m.
I don’t know that last phrase, but “perkele” is a swear word, used kind of like the F word (but different translation).
