I’ll admit, when I first started torrent I was not really familiar with how it worked and how important seeding was. I would just use magnet links without configuration to save the torrent and seed after completion. Well… I have finally, got myself back to 1.00 after a couple months and working to try to always seed double what I get for each torrent.

Often times I was one of the few random seeders available for some of these torrents. Friendly reminder to give back because you never know when you’re one of the rare cases that can complete someones long lost file download!

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    Ratios are a things of a past. I’m having trouble getting ratios as all of the torrents I have are straight zeros in the upload section. I still keep them around for a while just out of habit, but just to verify it’s working I’ve downloaded some random file with high leech ratio. Got it in fast, but upload is now going at less than 5% the upload capacity. Back in late 00s running torrents would instantly saturate the entirety of my 10mbit connection, and I’d like to think that terabytes I’ve seeded during that time make up for my abysmal ratios nowadays. But the reality is that there just simply is enough seeders already, and as a result the trackers I frequent to either dropped it entirely or switched to a scoring system based on how much and for how long people store obscure torrents that only few people seed, but I’m too short on drive space to participate in that.

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      I mean have you really only downloaded less than 500gb or is almost everything free seed and doesn’t count on your download stats.

      Eitherway nice seeding, good job

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        yeah, I mostly download free seeds and I don’t think that adds to the download count, I’ve definitely downloaded more than 500gb

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    My seed ratio is 1.2. I’d seed more, but I download a lot of different things and my home server is limited on space at the moment.

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      I get a gig down but only 50mbps up (fucking spectrum), so I gotta limit seeding the same way or I’d just crush my upload speed all the time.

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        Spectrum is the shittiest company known to man. Double and triple billing, they bill a month ahead so your paying for service you haven’t yet used, horrible speed my as well be false advertising, customer support is terrible. They fraud charged and upsold services to get discounts which was a lock you in contract scam price. All time worst companies ever.

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    Way to go, keep it up!

    Took me a while to find the stats tab, I didnt know it was available lol

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    That’s the spirit!
    My rule of thumb has always been to share to ratio 1.1. Side thought: Maybe there’s a funny correlation between birthrates needing to be 2.1 for a stable population, the extra .1 to make up for deaths, and well, the 2 is because it takes two to make a baby.

    Anyway, since we're all sharing, these are my stats from 41 days ago when I switched to Nobara.

     
    (Gigabit internet is the biggest luxury I allow myself to splurge on.)

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        I did go out of my way to check creation date and modified date on those folders to try and assess whether I had copied the statistics over from my distrohop. Might’ve been old stats plus new, I’m not too sure. I should really start using cp -a instead of just drag’n’drop in dolphin…

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    I have like 250 KB/s for seeding maybe 250 Kb/s max (min)

    I just round it down to 0 kb(B)/s to prevent brain overhead

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    Private trackers enforce ratios, and good private trackers reward long-term seeding, which is part of why I like private trackers.

    I’m very proud of my CG account that turns seventeen next month.

    EDIT: No I don’t have invites, before anyone asks.

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      EDIT: No I don’t have invites, before anyone asks.

      Yeah, this is also a problem though. I’d love to be on a private tracker as I was in the past, but once you’re out it’s just too much of a hassle to get back in.

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      I have yet to get a positive ratio on anything I’ve ever downloaded from a private tracker. Always have to sit and wait to accumulate points in their seeding time system… It’s annoying because otherwise I’d be seeding a lot more shit for them.

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        The trick is to use autodl-irssi or autobrr to download the torrent the second it gets added to the tracker. As long as you have a very fast internet connection, you will usually be over 1:1 before it finishes downloading.

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          For that to work I’d have to know what I’m looking for in advance… I don’t really have enough media exposure for that. I usually find out about shows/movies I might be interested in after they’ve been out for months.

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            You’re basically never going to hit a positive ratio if you do things that way. Other people are using RSS feeds to know when something becomes available, then grabbing it on a seedbox. They get the entire thing instantly, then they start seeding to everyone else.

            It is possible (but slow) to get a positive ratio if you don’t have a seedbox, as long as you grab new things instantly. But, while it will take maybe 20 minutes to download, it will often take days of continuously seeding to hit 1.0.

            If your goal is to hit a positive ratio, either get a seedbox or grab things immediately via a feed. If you’re grabbing using a feed, you could theoretically grab popular shows even if you’re not interested in them. But, it’s a bit of a waste of bandwidth to grab something and seed it if you never intend to look at it. Your best bet, if you’re trying not to be wasteful, is figure out a show you actually want to watch that’s still releasing new episodes. Grab new episodes immediately and seed them.

            Even if it’s a show where you’re still on season 1 and currently season 4 is airing, as long as you’ll eventually get to season 4, you’re not wasting bandwidth that way.

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              Yeah, I’m not arguing with you, it’s just a pain in the ass to deal with. I don’t mind seeding the shit I download at all but it shouldn’t be a fucking competition when it’s a requirement to download stuff. Obviously they’re not hurting for seeders. IMO a better metric would be having a required seeding time (which they do anyway) and let you download as much as you want as long as you seed it long enough. Like you said I’ll never hit a positive ratio, even doing things your way I doubt I’d find enough shit I wanted to build up a big ratio. I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing and rely mainly on public trackers and use the private ones only when I can’t find what I’m looking for. I actually have quite a high ratio on both the private trackers I use just from seeding stuff for a long time and trading points in so I can download stuff, it just doesn’t help my ratio.

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                I actually have quite a high ratio on both the private trackers I use just from seeding stuff for a long time and trading points in so I can download stuff, it just doesn’t help my ratio.

                I think this is a good way to use private trackers. Most will have occasional events from time-to-time as well. If you keep seeding everything you get from freeleech, eventually you’ll hit a point where your seeding benefits outpace the amount you care to download and you can just download whatever and not care anymore forever. One of mine I hit that point about six years ago and I just totally take it for granted that I can snatch anything I’m curious about. I do not understand the need to care about your ratio beyond being enough to download things you want without losing your userclass perks.

                I actually like private tracker forums a lot, they are communities that no organization will ever care to astroturf and that are free of bot posts. You’re just talking with people, and as you grow to recognize some of the regulars it feels like a community. Anyway, it’s weird how normal most people on those forums are about this stuff considering how if you look at r/trackers you might get the impression that the purpose of these websites is for the users to move up a ladder like it’s a game. (Also the consensus on that subreddit is never use a tracker’s forums under any circumstances ever because you will 100% be banned for no reason because the mods don’t have lives and…what?)

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                  Also the consensus on that subreddit is never use a tracker’s forums under any circumstances ever because you will 100% be banned for no reason because the mods don’t have lives and…what?

                  Presumably half the subreddit were banned from the official forums for treating it like ranked competitive piracy

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                Part of the problem is that people who hit some massive share ratio are doing it at the expense of people who are simply trying to hit 1.0.

                My guess is that most of the people with really high ratios aren’t even aware of how much they’re sharing. They just set the things to seed and then forget them. Some people do treat it like a competition, but for many it isn’t. Most are probably just trying to be nice and make sure that something stays available.

                What’s really needed is some seeding priority thing so that someone who is trying to prove they’re not a leech is given top priority to seed things, and someone who has already established their credentials is put at the back of the queue.

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          I may be wrong, but I think you can even game the system a bit. I think the way the torrent protocol works, it prefers to trade packets between people who don’t have a complete download before it requests missing bits from seeders. So, if you restrict your download bandwidth so you avoid becoming a seeder for as long as possible, you’ll upload more stuff. If I’m right, then the ultimate way to do things would be to grab as much of the content as quickly as possible, but slow way down when you’re at 99% complete. That way you have the chunks that everyone else wants but you don’t get counted as a seeder.

          I haven’t bothered looking into the protocol to verify this, but it always seems that I upload less when something’s complete vs. when it’s in progress. But, that could just be an illusion.

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            I have also observed this behavior, but only when the file is new and the only seeder is the uploader.

            Hower I’m kinda curious to test it out. Any idea if there’s some way to script qbittorrent to somehow mimic this behavior?

            Download until 99,0% completed with 100% of download speed, then reduce to 0.1% of my download speed until finished?

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              No, I don’t know how to script to test it, sorry. But, if you do test it let me know what you find.

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        It’s definitely not easy, especially if you don’t have a seedbox.

        I have gotten a good amount of upload, but that’s on torrents I have been seeding for literally years at a time.

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          If you don’t have a seedbox you’re basically “competing” against people who do. So, even if you’re willing to seed to a ratio of 2.0 and keep things around for months or years, the requests that go to seedboxes get fulfilled at an insane bandwidth and nobody needs the content you’re serving up using your 2400 baud modem.

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        I’m honestly surprised CG has survived this long. Most of the other trackers I was on from that era are long gone.

        Oink’s Pink Palace gone, What gone, baconBits gone, cheggit gone… I think the only two other than CG that still exist are indietorrents and empornium. I’m old now so the porn trackers no longer appeal to me.

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      There’s a private sports tracker I’ve heard of that rewards long-term seeding. What’s cool about that is that most sports events are only relevant for a few days and then people move on, this is especially true for big fans of certain teams who want the latest event. But, if you reward people for seeding, they’ll just keep some random game or event around for months. That means that if something suddenly becomes relevant months later, you can probably still find it.

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        Usually they give users points of credit to download more torrents: Users that don’t seed will burn through their download credits and won’t be able to download.

        Other trackers will also give you points for every hour you seed a torrent (usually X points per gigabyte per hour) which encourages seeding even if the given file isn’t as popular, or so popular that other seeders choke you out of uploading to other users.

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          They also offer freeleech torrents that don’t count toward your DL ratio to help stimulate the “economy.”

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        https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Private_trackers#What_is_a_private_tracker.3F

        What is a private tracker?

        A private tracker is a torrent website that provides the same functionality as a public tracker but is invite-only. This means you need to be a member to view the contents of the site and download its torrents. A tracker can either be semiprivate, where you can create an account for free by just registering your details, or fully private, where another user has to invite you. Within a tracker, there is usually an extensive set of rules covering how much one can download, what kind of content one can upload, what precautions one must take when logging into the site, etc. Such rules and content vary from tracker to tracker, and go from rather liberal with little enforcement to ultra-paranoid and autistic