Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 1 day agoChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlexternal-linkmessage-square109fedilinkarrow-up1697arrow-down11cross-posted to: BuyFromEU@europe.pub
arrow-up1696arrow-down1external-linkChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 1 day agomessage-square109fedilinkcross-posted to: BuyFromEU@europe.pub
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up8arrow-down1·17 hours agoPlease let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
minus-squareSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOPMlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up13·edit-216 hours agoWe need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
minus-squareThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·7 minutes agoWe have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up7·14 hours agoAndroid is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did. And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·3 hours agoWe also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy. But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
minus-squareObi@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·13 hours agoIsn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·13 hours agoNope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
minus-squareRenohren@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up1·edit-22 hours agoThat was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
Please let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
We need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
We have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
Android is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did.
And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
We also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy.
But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
Isn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
Nope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
That was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
I’d love to see it.