• mannycalavera@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    Internet jokes aside, it seems pretty weak to be venerating killers like this.

    I’ll accept your down votes with grace.

    • Decomaeker@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Well he is suspected of murder, we don’t technically know if he did. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

      • SleafordMod@feddit.ukOP
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        2 days ago

        Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

        I thought that only applied to conservatives who have been accused of sexual harassment.

        Being serious though, I agree with @mannycalavera@feddit.uk that killers probably shouldn’t be venerated, but it’s definitely interesting that the Luigi case has inspired a lot of discussion, so I wondered what Lemmy users might think about this mural.

    • s12@sopuli.xyz
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      2 days ago

      It’s definitely sad and unfortunate that someone had to die, but I heard they were using unethical means to exploit vulnerable people and cause the deaths of many others.

      If the police weren’t going to do anything about the CEO, then sadly, it’s ultimately necessary for a vigilante to step up.

      It’s why you need a fair legal system.

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        2 days ago

        It’s why you need a fair legal system.

        This.

        If the police weren’t going to do anything about the CEO, then sadly, it’s ultimately necessary for a vigilante to step up.

        But not this.

        If someone (a CEO, a powerful business man, a politician, whatever) is doing something so egregiously wrong then club together to raise awareness, take legal action, shame them in the press, set up you own alternatives. Going straight to murder is not the answer.

        Yet it scares me that so many people think it is 😢😬.

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              14 hours ago

              Because we’ve been fighting this battle the right way for DECADES. Enough is enough. Luigi did nothing wrong.

              • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
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                13 hours ago

                What have you tried? What have you personally tried?

                For example, have you got together in your locality and created a shared insurance scheme for you and your neighbours? Basically adopt a version of French / German healthcare insurance on a local level? Have you tried that?

                • Retropunk64@lemmy.world
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                  9 hours ago

                  Stop simping for corporate leeches. If the people have collectively been fighting the system within the legal framework for DECADES yet things continuously get worse, its not the people that’s the problem. The systems rotten to the core and needs to be cut out at the root.

                  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk
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                    12 minutes ago

                    Stop simping for corporate leeches.

                    I’m not defended your health care system. Read my other replies. Your health care sucks balls and we feel really bad for you. I’m saying that murdering people isn’t good neither is encouraging it. Big difference 👍.

                    If you don’t like your unfortunate situation then do something constructive and positive about it. Heck, educate yourself well enough to move it you feel so strongly about it. Imagine if people took the same attitude to your education system that they happen to be aggrieved with. Sooner or later the US will be overwhelmed with mass school killings because some jackass “hated the school system that failed him”.

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          1 day ago

          Then club together to raise awareness, take legal action, shame them in the press, set up you own alternatives.

          Pretty sure that everyone over in the US has already tried and failed this. If not, then you’re 100% correct.

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            23 hours ago

            They might have tried it in different ways, and it might be really difficult I don’t deny that. But the alternative of murder seems a little overkill, no?

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                15 hours ago

                I agree the US health care system is pretty fucked up and I feel bad for people in the US. But are you saying that killing is the answer?

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                  14 hours ago

                  When doing things the right way repeatedly for decades gets you nowhere, you reach a point where you need to stand up to your oppressors.

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          No one went “straight to murder”. There have been decades of struggle.

          You’re also describing the “boxes of liberty” thing. “To be used in order: soap box, ballot box, jury box, ammo box”.

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      2 days ago

      Not allowed to down vote. You wrote hurty words. That’s violence. Literal violence.

      Don’t you just love Woke.