• dx1@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    People have both individual thought and herd-like psychological behaviors? Your comment could be read as either supporting or disagreeing with my comment, not sure what you’re trying to say.

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      4 hours ago

      I’m saying that people who are paying attention can’t know for certain that a sufficient number of other people are paying enough attention to even shift their vote from the democrats to a brand new leftwing party with sufficient “brand awareness” without undermining the lesser evil’s chances by jumping over for any given major election.

      Half the population pays virtually no attention to politics. Meaning trying for a third party for president is a laughably if not willfully ignorant unless you’ve done the ground work elsewhere in government built up awareness of the party from holding smaller offices first.

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        4 hours ago

        That is the problem I’m describing. It is the population’s job to evaluate and choose candidates. Simply waiting for them to be handed to you gets you totalitarianism.

        you’ve done the ground work elsewhere in government built up awareness of the party from holding smaller offices first.

        This logic for a preemptive discreditation of a third party applies the same - incorrectly - to any office. The choice for a Senate or House or governor or even state legislature seat can face the same dilemma.

        You’re not voting for the party, you’re voting for a candidate, and it’s virtually irrelevant what other offices members of their party holds. An entire population voting on “brand awareness” is suicidal. A population must make educated decisions on political candidates or risk totalitarianism. I am well aware of the stupid processes people use to select political candidates, that’s what I’m complaining about in the first place. The fact that we haven’t solved this problem already got us where we are now.

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          3 hours ago

          OK, I actually think we might be getting somewhere for once. What exactly do you propose to solve that problem? Because saying people need to make more educated decisions isn’t going to make it so. Most people do not want to even think about politics let alone become deeply educated about it, so its an uphill battle on somehow educating the masses before you have any actual political power to mandate that education.

          I mean, I still think game theory applies with first past the post. Like for instance if you have 2 equally liked anti-racist candidates and 1 singular awful one that appeals to subconscious racism, the racist one is more likely going to win due to splitting the anti-racist vote. But still, I’m curious about your solution to the educated voting problem.