It’s just hard to tell man. I was talking with someone who was a real life human person living in Kyiv, and he was filling me in on all kinds of things about what the citizens of Ukraine REALLY think is important to know about the war, that sounded a lot like satire.
Very much bullshitting. He kept bringing up the $20k bonus for signing up as a contract soldier for Russia, and said they wished that kind of deal in Ukraine. Euromaidan was a Western psyop, with paid thugs coming in rough up anyone who opposed it, Ukraine’s military was corrupt and mismanaging the war, he wished he could live in Russia and travel freely, lots of exciting stuff.
Eventually, what I told him was that as long as he sent me comment replies filled with bullshit, I was planning on making posts that contradicted his narrative, so the sum total of influence each of his comments would have on the narrative would be against his favored position. I posted the Euromaidan article to !wikipedia@lemmy.world and sent him the link. Weirdly enough, he suddenly hasn’t been interested in talking about it any further since then.
Good job! I don’t often participate in political discussions and having my head filled with this for two days is a bit too much.
he wished he could live in Russia
I would only ever travel out of there once and never come back. I’m just envy that they can leave freely if they don’t like anything. We don’t have such option.
paid thugs coming in rough up anyone who opposed it
I never said that.
Ukraine’s military was corrupt and mismanaging the war
Our government admit this and talk about it every day, yet they only fight each other and don’t do anything to fix it.
Eventually, what I told him was that as long as he sent me comment replies filled with bullshit, I was planning on making posts that contradicted his narrative, so the sum total of influence each of his comments would have on the narrative would be against his favored position.
If you’re going to miss my posts as inspiration for this, I recommend watching ukrainian youtube. You can turn on subtitles with english autotranslate - it’s decent.
For context, this dude wandered into a comments section about a group of female Ukrainian partisans who are doing low-level resistance in occupied parts of Ukraine, obviously at significant personal risk to themselves. You can find some of their propaganda posters, which are spectacular, in my history. Here’s a sample:
This dude’s comment on the partisans was:
I’m sorry girls, that’s all cool and I like the vibe, but I’m not going to fight for you (I would never fight for people I don’t even know personally tbh). Currently I’m not leaving my appartment and waiting for it to be over to be able to leave this country in peace. Those girls though, it’s not like they can’t leave the Crimea. And actually, it’s not like they can’t go to Ukraine-controlled territories and mobilize there and go to the frontlines if they really care for this country so much.
I thought that was hilarious, in a disgusting sort of way, so I started talking with him. It turns out he lives in Kyiv, everyone in Ukraine hates the war and the government, he wishes he could be in Russia where he could get $22k for signing up with the military, which he keeps bringing up from time to time. We’re going around an apparently never ending cycle of various important things I need to understand about the truth of what’s happening in Ukraine.
Of course it would be ever so beastly for me to suggest he isn’t actually posting truth that’s been denied to me, about Ukraine, from his apartment in Kyiv. And continuing the argument here would be off topic, so I won’t do either of those things. I’ll respond to his reply back somewhere in the ever growing labyrinth of conversation under the original post.
Also, a twofer, since I fell behind at posting Ukraine stuff every time you left me a comment:
he wishes he could be in Russia where he could get $22k for signing up with the military
You’re again making things up about what I said. Also, you keep failing to understand the motives even though I explained them. You can just read it again more carefully.
For my sanity, it has to be satire
It’s got to be, right? With the misspelling of “genocide” as the little nod that lets you know they’re imitating a profoundly stupid point of view.
(shhhh - yeah very much satire)
*ahem*
Nooooo it’s all truuuuuue!!! I are a real anticarstical sociapolist!
It’s just hard to tell man. I was talking with someone who was a real life human person living in Kyiv, and he was filling me in on all kinds of things about what the citizens of Ukraine REALLY think is important to know about the war, that sounded a lot like satire.
Interesting - like, real things or you think they were just bullshitting?
Very much bullshitting. He kept bringing up the $20k bonus for signing up as a contract soldier for Russia, and said they wished that kind of deal in Ukraine. Euromaidan was a Western psyop, with paid thugs coming in rough up anyone who opposed it, Ukraine’s military was corrupt and mismanaging the war, he wished he could live in Russia and travel freely, lots of exciting stuff.
Eventually, what I told him was that as long as he sent me comment replies filled with bullshit, I was planning on making posts that contradicted his narrative, so the sum total of influence each of his comments would have on the narrative would be against his favored position. I posted the Euromaidan article to !wikipedia@lemmy.world and sent him the link. Weirdly enough, he suddenly hasn’t been interested in talking about it any further since then.
Edit: Typo
Nice - well, well done you!
Good job! I don’t often participate in political discussions and having my head filled with this for two days is a bit too much.
I would only ever travel out of there once and never come back. I’m just envy that they can leave freely if they don’t like anything. We don’t have such option.
I never said that.
Our government admit this and talk about it every day, yet they only fight each other and don’t do anything to fix it.
If you’re going to miss my posts as inspiration for this, I recommend watching ukrainian youtube. You can turn on subtitles with english autotranslate - it’s decent.
Hello again!
For context, this dude wandered into a comments section about a group of female Ukrainian partisans who are doing low-level resistance in occupied parts of Ukraine, obviously at significant personal risk to themselves. You can find some of their propaganda posters, which are spectacular, in my history. Here’s a sample:
This dude’s comment on the partisans was:
I thought that was hilarious, in a disgusting sort of way, so I started talking with him. It turns out he lives in Kyiv, everyone in Ukraine hates the war and the government, he wishes he could be in Russia where he could get $22k for signing up with the military, which he keeps bringing up from time to time. We’re going around an apparently never ending cycle of various important things I need to understand about the truth of what’s happening in Ukraine.
Of course it would be ever so beastly for me to suggest he isn’t actually posting truth that’s been denied to me, about Ukraine, from his apartment in Kyiv. And continuing the argument here would be off topic, so I won’t do either of those things. I’ll respond to his reply back somewhere in the ever growing labyrinth of conversation under the original post.
Also, a twofer, since I fell behind at posting Ukraine stuff every time you left me a comment:
https://ponder.cat/post/1521422
https://ponder.cat/post/1521529
You’re again making things up about what I said. Also, you keep failing to understand the motives even though I explained them. You can just read it again more carefully.