Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
Probably better to post in the github issue rather than replying here.
You could do something like send a list of user IDs who voted, and have the client do the filtering locally with its blocklist. It would consume more bandwidth instead of computational power but probably wouldn’t scale very well
Well you could do something like that but it wouldn’t affect sorting of the posts then. If you have blocked an instance and that instance has upvoted a post to 1000 votes so that it appears on the top of the All-feed, you’d see it at the top with 0 votes (or only the votes from the instances you haven’t blocked), which would be very strange.
Would the client not be able to sort the received posts after filtering? Granted things could be fairly inconsistent from one page to the next. Or maybe something like “Score: 0 (blocked: 1k)” to indicate the proportion of activity being taken out of consideration?
Definitely not confident that this is a good idea or anything btw, just spitballing
Would the client not be able to sort the received posts after filtering?
Your client only gets a page of the sorting at a time. You would only be able to sort that single page, but to do an actual sorting, you’ll need more posts than just what appears on the front page.
Right, that is what I meant by “inconsistent from one page to another”. The received posts would be in an unfiltered state on each page and so the order could be very different depending on the local blocklist, probably resulting in stuff like the top of page 2 having a higher score than the bottom of page 1 pretty frequently.
I’m not sure it would. If my instance knows who up and downvoted a post, then they can work it out on the fly per post without even needing to tell me who did what.
Personally I’m not even in favour of the simple up/downvote system. Everyone uses it differently. “I disagree with you but thanks for being civil” can be up or down depending on who you are.
I’m not sure it would. If my instance knows who up and downvoted a post, then they can work it out on the fly per post without even needing to tell me who did what.
The problem is the sorting of the posts, i.e. what sits at the top of your feed. That can definitely not be calculated on the fly for every single user.
This would require aggregating vote counts for every single user separately. I think that is simply computationally infeasible.
You could do something like send a list of user IDs who voted, and have the client do the filtering locally with its blocklist. It would consume more bandwidth instead of computational power but probably wouldn’t scale very well
Well you could do something like that but it wouldn’t affect sorting of the posts then. If you have blocked an instance and that instance has upvoted a post to 1000 votes so that it appears on the top of the All-feed, you’d see it at the top with 0 votes (or only the votes from the instances you haven’t blocked), which would be very strange.
Would the client not be able to sort the received posts after filtering? Granted things could be fairly inconsistent from one page to the next. Or maybe something like “Score: 0 (blocked: 1k)” to indicate the proportion of activity being taken out of consideration?
Definitely not confident that this is a good idea or anything btw, just spitballing
Your client only gets a page of the sorting at a time. You would only be able to sort that single page, but to do an actual sorting, you’ll need more posts than just what appears on the front page.
Right, that is what I meant by “inconsistent from one page to another”. The received posts would be in an unfiltered state on each page and so the order could be very different depending on the local blocklist, probably resulting in stuff like the top of page 2 having a higher score than the bottom of page 1 pretty frequently.
I’m not sure it would. If my instance knows who up and downvoted a post, then they can work it out on the fly per post without even needing to tell me who did what.
Personally I’m not even in favour of the simple up/downvote system. Everyone uses it differently. “I disagree with you but thanks for being civil” can be up or down depending on who you are.
The problem is the sorting of the posts, i.e. what sits at the top of your feed. That can definitely not be calculated on the fly for every single user.