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@rozno @SuperSpruce
Choosing a server is often the hardest step. That’s why you should send the signup page of your fav instance to your friends and not the official lemmy page.
@thegiddystitcher @RedirectedPotato
Another con: You become an admin/moderator and have to keep up to date with the latest bad servers to defederate from and you’ll have to deal with all kind of bad posts yourself instead of relying on a moderation team.
@cedarmesa @c2h6
Diaspora is one of the oldest of the oldest. Much older than mastodon. They’re federated too, but not on the same network.
Mastodon and lemmy uses ActivityPub. (Mastodon used to run on OStatus, but then switched to ActivituPub later) Diaspora uses its own protocol and refuses to ever switch to a most recent one.
Some fediverse services however (friendica and hubzilla which are kinda facebook-like) are using multiple protocols and can federate with both mastodon and diaspora.
@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.
And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of !A@lemmy.A decided to migrate the community to !A@lemmy.B and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle
@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.
And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of !A@lemmy.A decided to migrate the community to !A@lemmy.B and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle
@programming
@WatTyler
There is a demo of an algorithmic timeline thingy for mastodon at https://fedifeed.herokuapp.com/ and I really really like how it has a bunch of sliders for fine-tuning. The time penalty in particular is very important.
Would be absolutely awesome to have the same on lemmy.
Edit: Lemmy doesn’t show my picture…
@ValueSubtracted
Instance users are only local users.
Community users include remote users who remotely subscribed to the community.
So the community users will always be higher than the number of instance users.
And it still doesn’t count lurkers like we who reply to a thread without subscribing.
@SuperIce @domage
Misskey is a Japanese twitter-like. It’s actually older than mastodon and very popular in Japan specifically. They have custom emoji reactions under posts, they have animation and advanced markdown, they can have cat ears on their profile pictures, THEY HAVE QUOTE REPOST, chat, advanced search features, etc.
Misskey have been forked multiple times (foudkey, calckey, etc.) and those forks are more popular in English-speaking communities.
@_finger_
We can have both generic instances and instances around a particular topic.
We already have a few lemmy dedicated to a particular community like latte.isnot.coffee and startrek.website
@V4uban
Donc plutôt que de se lancer nous même au risque de voir des instances disparaître avec toutes les communautés qu’ils hébergent, il faudrait peut-être demander à des admins d’instances mastodon si ils veulent bien gérer une instance lemmy* en parallèle, comme lemmy.world est un service frère de mastodon.world ou blahaj.zone avec lemmy.blahaj.zone.
*: lemmy ou kbin. Kbin est vraiment prometeur.
@LaQuadrature @admin @admin@mastouille.fr @thomas_virtubox
Quelqu’un veut se lancer?
@V4uban J’apprécie énormément l’effort des nouveaux arrivants pour créer rapidement de nouvelle instances. (comme sh.itjust.works). Mais on ne sait pas trop si ça va durer dans le temps.
C’est cool de répartir les utilisateurs sur pleins de petits serveurs, mais pour héberger les communautés, il vaudrait mieux des instances de taille moyenne hébergés par des admins expérimentés.
@chocolatine
Ça dépend de ce que l’on attend de lemmy. Si l’objectif c’est de dépasser Reddit en nombre d’utilisateurs/post par minute ou n’importe quelle autre métrique. Non j’y crois pas du tout
Si l’objectif c’est de passer un cap critique qui permet au réseau d’être utilisable et utile. Alors oui c’est tout à fait possible. Mastodon l’a fait et c’est plus dur de réseauter un twitter-like qu’un reddit-like. Même une commu reddit de 10 personnes peut être cool, twitter est censé être mondial
@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.
A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.
You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.
Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.
Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.
The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.
Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!
Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.
@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about “replace”, but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.
I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:
- Meta (insta/twt replacement)
- Tumblr
- Wordpress.com
- Medium (currently only running mastodon)
- Discourse
- Flarum
Last time I check those were a few popular social media.
Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy
Kbin has a “microblog” tab, you can see posts from mastodon people there. They’re either associated to a magazibe thanks to hashtags or in “random”. And you can follow people.
On lemmy, you can’t follow people and any post that isn’t associated to a community is just invisible to you.
@fomo_erotic @mstrbtr
Lemmy and kbin are two softwares who speak the same language. You can see kbin posts on lemmy and lemmy posts on kbin. Communities from lemmy are called magazines on kbin.
The features and UI are different. Kbin is more integrated to Twitter-like softwares like mastodon.
I think that’s almost inevitable. Almost all mid-sized lemmy instances will have a copy of almost all mid-sized lemmy communities.
Lemmy is a very different beast compared to mastodon. Of course not everyone is following everyone on mastodon, but if you have an even slightly diverse userbase, they’ll subscribe to a lot of different communities and your instance will have a lot of traffic very quickly. Hosting lemmy is going to be challenging.
@fediverse @Perfide @MoogleMaestro
The staff of automatic have confirmed multiple times on Twitter and Mastodon that they’re working on this for both Tumblr and wordpress. And many people offered their help, including the co-inventor of ActivityPub.
This IS happening. I don’t know when, but it’s coming.