That water pollution is neon green goo, air pollution is thick black smoke, or radioactive waste is only in drums.

Most of it is invisible and you don’t know about it until it’s too late.

A lot of people don’t understand them. Others don’t care, thinking they will deal with the debt later or never.

American basic education in math doesn’t really cover financial math much.

Can confirm. Had a Finnish lapphund that lived over 12 years on kibble and frozen raw food. She was the best girl.

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That was the intent of the system for water at least. The acronym for water discharge permits is NPDES. National Pollution Discharge Elimination System.

Then profit driven companies, their soulless lobbyists, amoral lawyers kept bending that.

Like just about any environmental regulation in the US - most of them are heavily influenced by the industries that are regulated. All US laws prioritize commerce and profits first and everything else second. Including the environment, workers rights, etc.

Gotta get lobbying and money as speech out of the equation. Then everything would have some chance of improving or kind of aligning with citizen expectations.

Also, most of government workers would love to have more effective regulations so we can be more effective. Despite most people shitting on them as lazy or ineffective. The ineffective is by design and under funding.

I’m no historian but I think you’re being a bit disingenuous here. Someone could have made the same comment before the tinderbox of WWI or WWII started at points.

The similarities are closer than they have been for quite some time. Hopefully you are right though and nothing escalates any further.

Good riddance

A lot of time the government refuses to comment on something because doing so would conflict with law, undermine an active criminal or civil case, or they are still working on it.

Saying “the government” in one broad general statement shows some degree of ignorance as to how the very systems you say “do not scale” work.

Yeah big parts of it are fucked up. A lot of politicians are power hungry sociopaths. But there are a whole lot of civil servants that work their asses off every day for below market rate pay in spite of how fucked up it is trying to make it better in a tangible way.

Maybe saying “the political system” might be more accurate than “the government” because a lot of the government is working pretty well despite the political system being so fucked up.

I work as an environmental engineer that does inspections of industrial, government, and military facilities. Every inspection I get to tour a different place and learn how it works and how things are made. I’ve gotten to see some amazing places like

-NASA rocket testing sites -shuttered nuclear weapons production processes, -the factory that makes all the flavoring for Dr pepper/potpourri/cherry/fake almond (it’s made starting with paint thinner, yikes) -refineries -military bases

It’s fascinating to both see how the world actually works, and how stuff is made, the benefits to society/vs costs to society and environment, and every place has its own site-specific culture. I find so many people take for granted how our whole society is so dependent on a few resources, industries, and expert people working together.

I get to use soft skills to interview people and figure out if they are being honest or hiding something, use my engineering and scientific skills to assess sites, and have a mix of inside/outside work.

My work also does some good - helping develop cases to bring to enforcement. My cases have resulted in changes that improve living conditions for people near these sites, the workers at them, or the environment.

Environmental engineering doesn’t pay as much as other disciplines like a senior software engineer or something. But it’s a good income and the work isn’t as subject to boom/bust cycles as other sectors because it’s driven by regulations more than profits.

Went to school for environmental engineering almost twenty years ago and graduated with one of the first accredited degrees in the field.

For the last twenty years I’ve traveled the country helping clean up the environment or prevent land from being further contaminated. Yeah the system is fucked up, lawyers and politicians and society don’t value the environment over a quick buck. But I’ve done some good as opposed to wave a sign around at a protest.

Built up enough experience that I’m now part of a specialized team with the EPA that goes to all states and territories to help with case development on complicated or high profile sites that states and regions don’t have the resources to handle.

Doing exactly what I wanted to do for my career, and directly because I got a good education that opened the doors to do it. I make a decent salary and have a skillset that makes employment easy and secure.

IIT: angry people in their 20s saying that no one will tell them when to have a good time!

There is still a player run league going strong. I’ve played in it for almost ten years. Great group of folks and new teams are often forming especially at lower MMRs.

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