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  • Pinecorn@vegantheoryclub.orgtoVegan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneeggs
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    6 days ago

    Yeah I know what you meant :)

    I just got into an argument with my roommate group recently over egg protein and it was annoying me, and when I get annoyed I write long rants of counterarguments against ppl who aren’t in the room… Am I too much of a stereotypical vegan…? (T-T)


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    It’s frustrating because as far as I have seen there is functionally no evidence to back up this cultural protein obsession we all have. Besides the inflammation, besides the cancer, besides the accompanying heart disease due to cholesterol, what is animal protein even good for?

    ‘Is it somehow a necessary nutrient for us?’ BZZZZT. Wrong. Dietary protein deficiency doesn’t exist (the only possible paths to deficiency are leaky gut or malnutrition). Possibly the only reason to eat excess protein is if you’re recovering from an injury, or something. The best way I can explain this is to that ignorant line of ‘We nEeD PrOtEiN To bUiLd oUr mUsClEs,’ your muscles have already been built and they largely don’t need to be built twice, you do not need nearly as much protein as you think you do.

    ‘Okay, but eggs are good for baking.’ Can’t you try, like, anything else? I get that people like using eggs over egg alternatives due to some obsession with living a default life where you only make default choices something about taste or whatever, but can’t y’all just try alternatives like once? Applesauce, chickpea water, flax, chia, etc, there are too many alternatives for you to try one and lump them all together like ‘oh but I tried flax but it tasted sorta off so I guess I have no options but to clog my arteries and send baby chicks to a meat grinder’

    I was serious about the “default choice” thing. It’s as if some people have a pathological need to live the most ‘normal’ life possible. It permeates every aspect of our society, from people worrying they haven’t gotten worried yet to kids searching up the average age for a 1st kiss to discrimination against the LGBT to psych medication noncompliance to people in hard circumstances holding the worldview that everyone is struggling just like them, all because otherwise they’re the weird ones, and being weird or unnatural is bad and icky, but being normal and doing what everyone else does is good and happy

    It’s just- so damn infantile.



  • I read the article. I often find both participating in social justice spheres and arguing with non-vegans becomes frustrating for these very reasons. Often while veganism comes up I find the same people who have been harping on and on about the current virtue signaling cause turn on a dime and suddenly start cracking jokes about ‘muh burger’ or making erroneously claims that we need to eat meat because of ‘muh protein’

    I think it’s just the lack of curiosity that gets to me. The sort of people who ‘will try anything’ but won’t try a vegan burger (or will try one and decide they’ve tried them all). People who have no background in nutrition but outright assert things like ‘lentils just aren’t sufficient for protein’ on no evidence. And when you give a contesting viewpoint, like ‘eggs are actually terrible for you because of their cholesterol,’ they’re not interested in finding out the truth, they act as if nutrition as a science is just some ‘agree to disagree’ type thing and use justifications like ‘humans are omnivores’ as a wall from caring. These are the sort of people who if born into a pro-slavery society would definitely be slavers…

    Though I am vegan for the animals, I usually try to engage with people on the basis of nutrition for this very reason, to break down their cognitive dissonance. But I have to say it drives me up a wall the way people seem to associate my 400+ expertise in evidence-based nutrition as equivalent to someone who follows a fad diet, or something.