@solivine Same, and it just works better. Whenever I need a word processor or spreadsheet at home I don’t need that much, and I need to be able to access it on all my devices, not just my home computer. So having the free alternative work faster, better, everywhere, then I don’t even see Office as relevant anymore.

@billiam0202 @q47tx @wintermute_oregon @WeirdGoesPro @H2207

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@SuperRecording I’ve always been told the opposite. As long as you brush soon after you actually prevent stains. And to always make sure to at least rinse with water after coffee.

@zephyr

@Squander Let us peel away your petty facades and reveal you for what your truly are!!! — fairly attractive 20-somethings, apparently.

@ananesiken “I can’t adapt to change so therefore I refuse to, and will publicly announce it as I do so.”

K bye, this content isn’t helping the lack of good content.

@Manticore

they require them to understand the concept of what a ‘server’ is to even get started.

I’ve known 5 year olds start minecraft servers. And understand that each “world” is an “instance”. But that’s aside the point, as you’re right that even Help-Desk IT people struggle to understand the difference between computer and server.

It’s not hard, it’s just new.

The “new” part is what gets people. All of this is new. Even the implementation of all of this “fediverse” is new. It will come with time! People probably didn’t understand email vs snailmail, and probably had an even harder time with SMS/IM vs email when all of that came about just over 20-30 years ago. Most of these “complications” are from people that grew up knowing that the “internet” is basically 5 or 6 social media sites for very specific uses, and those 5 or 6 sites are older than most of the people using them, so that’s all they know. Even for a dude in IT, the fediverse was a new concept to understand, and even difficult to understand how it could best be implemented for the masses.

@metic

@abff08f4813c The main thing about all this is that there were no alternatives to Reddit until now. We needed a good push and reason to leave but never had a tangible alternative with nothing even showing up in Search results worth checking out. Now we do, All these big corps are screwing themselves, and we now have a BETTER alternative than all of them. So keep screwing up, Reddit, we have a place to go now. Keep screwing up, Twitter, Google, StackOverflow, Tumblr, Imgur, and all others that will soon follow suit.

@static “I don’t even know how pinging works :)”

So for non-techy dude that sounds more business oriente in their question, I can clarify that everything that kbin is or can be is public code that anybody can copy and build from. It’s duplicated already by everyone that makes their own instance, and people can make their own edits. for #1, it’s all donation. #2, it’s all what ernest can churn out before he croaks or gets bored but kbin is just a bin of code that everyone can toss into, there is no singular domain to own. #3 every instance has their own power over their site. It’s like Wordpress. Wordpress is the source code to make things easier on the website builder. Kbin is just the website builder like WordPress. What users make of it is up to them and doesn’t require a board for each website to be made. We (the user) can request changes that get voted on by other users and can be implemented or not if someone knows how to contribute the code.

@ernest @mmaramara

@feduser934 They should have VINs just like motorcycles or chips built in because those free bikes are going in to someones van every night.

@lntl @KeavesSharpi

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@hazelnot

Not everyone is a programmer with programmer knowledge making programmer money.

That’s true, but then we run back in to the problem of what I saw in early kbin days (before Reddit influx) thinking that there should be many instances all having unlimited communities. But this is basically duplicating communities that are now visible thousands of times. There should at least be a theme/community to each instance and have micro-communities in that.

My example would be current-day forums. There are “instances” for just about everything. Most of the time when I buy a new car/motorcycle I join whatever forum site made for that specific vehicle. So that’s what I was thinking when I think it’s feasible to make fediverse instances of current sites. Mainly just make federation features the de-facto standard so people can subscribe to their conversations.

I’ve already seen how Wordpress can federate with a plugin, and every blog post is like any other post. Forums can be similar depending on their backend software the site is running.

@Cipher @trachemys

@Cipher I think of it more of an instructional issue specifically rather than learning issue. People explain “it’s like email” but fail to deliver the fact that it should be more like “It’s how the internet should work”. Where people think Lemmy is THE SITE and can communicate with kbin THE SITE.

It should be mentioned that if anyone has built a website, that Lemmy is the software. You install Google Chrome on your computer, you install lemmy on your computer. You are now able to ACCESS all the other websites like you would in Chrome.

People think “oh it’s like email, well I know Gmail is pretty good so I’ll make an account there. Whatever decisions Google makes is by extension my decision.” The average user doesn’t know what email actually is. They don’t know that you can make your own email service. They don’t know you can even just buy a domain and have your own email address.

The only thing that bugs me about the fediverse as a whole is that these threadiverse concepts shouldn’t have communities. If it was implemented as intended, you’d have to make a community by making a new instance. The community should be federated, and then duplicate communities would get individually federated or defederated.

I think the ambiguity of the fediverse is muddied by how each software is trying to implement it. And it’s almost hard to incentivize making your own instance.

@trachemys

@BreadDog Myself and @moar_salt created r/kbin and it hasn’t been banned yet. Check it out and spread the word! I deleted my moderator account to it but can assist where needed.

@bitsplease Hey all, I want you to think of this as rebooting the internet. YOU are the starter now. This whole fediverse concept is relatively new to a lot of people, but can make a whole lot of new websites be like what the internet was supposed to be. Please, be the forefront, be the internet you want to see. You can’t lurk because without you, WE won’t see anything. Content may be made by others, but you obsorb it and can pass it on. Just like gossip around the office, you have to be the one to help spread it otherwise there is no tea at the end of the day. This brought me out of my lurking shell. I’ve commented everywhere I even see! Join us! Share us! Be a part of this whole shift in the newest “generation” of internet!

Lets gooooooo

@Bicyclejohn you can check out fediverse.party for the proper software you might like. As mentioned, Friendica is one, writefreely is another, and there is also jointhefediverse.net that has a good comparison list of if you liked “X” then you’ll probably like “Y”.

@lens_r Welcome, welcome!!! That’s good feedback for the developers as kbin.pub states this is still in beta and still has room for improvement. But I’ve loved it so far as well and is my “main” fediverse instance.

@Bicyclejohn

I’ve found Cloudflare is cheaper than Google Domains, and allows for more flexibility of setups. A $12 domain on google can be $9 or less on Cloudflare. (this is a per-year price. So the cheaper you get the domain, will exponentially be cheaper over 10+ years)

Cloudflare is also a layer of protection to your pihole. You shouldn’t run in to that many issues by buying a domain but I’m not sure what you’re trying to do. Just buying a domain is like buying a username, it doesn’t do much until you point it somewhere. So if you’re pointing it to your pi-hole to host something then I’d look in to hosting services to save yourself a bit of a security issue.

What is it you’re trying to do?

Commenting from kbin. I actually feel kbin is a more reddit-like site and beginner friendly. and I love that we can interact from different sites.

I am more of a forum-type user and not a microblogger, so I liked that aspect of it all. I dislike Mastodon because of the “shout to the void” style that people post on there. I like a site that has sub-communities that all aggregate into a front-page, but this is a little different as I subscribe to individual sites rather than a moderated community within a monopolated site like Reddit.

So rather than a Reddit alternative, I actually like it as a re-thought forum. I’ve also enjoyed the culture of the fediverse of “we’re not here to attack everything you say” so I’ve felt more open to comment rather than lurk.