But that’s not the topic? I wish MGTOW would just go their own way already instead of pestering everyone with their bullshit.

Where in the study did they wrote that?

Yeah, I don’t know. I feel much more sorry for the girls and women who get hit by that hatred. And they definitely do. Online and sometimes offline as well. I see it in school (in Germany) how some boys as young as 12 already bought into the incel narratives and treat the girls accordingly. This has to be stomped out.

She was an old woman in the democratic party. That’s three things a lot of people on the internet hate. Since most agree she was a politician not fit for her job anymore they can go all out with the insults without getting too much backlash.

But in one case the victim is a person with feelings and in the other case it’s a tree. I find it quite concerning that people seem to struggle to see the difference.

What do you mean? Sorry, I don’t understand how I am moving the goalpost.

Wasn’t the trouble some people had with the drag queen shows the dances? I don’t know the situation in the US(?), but that’s what some people disliked about some of the shows in Germany.

Here is a video of one of these shows that was a program for kindergarden kids: https://youtu.be/p2zsZHb_Y7E?feature=shared

It’s dishonest to leave it out of the discussion when people didn’t have a problem with the clothing in the first place.

I am no pro in pedagogy or whatever. Not sure if that’s super harmful or whatever tale the alt right tried to spin. But it’s definitely not just some people with a cleavage or other types of sexy clothes.

Just checked and can’t believe it only got 40 %. Perhaps it’s because it was too close to the Matrix hype at the time. In my friend group we even called all these movies “vermatrixt”.

As someone who was in the same shoes as the person you reacted to: I was absolutely repulsed. It’s the main reason why I waited until my late thirties to get a partner for life.

When I got the slightest whiff of the men being with me because he liked that I was short / skinny / childlike that was the end of the relationship. It’s not only superficial, but also highly questionable to find your partner attractive because of these traits.

He looks too happy and to pretty, this did not bode well with Turkish police!

Thanks for the suggestion, I thought it was obvious

How can you even dare do suggest such an evil thing? Everybody knows men and women are completely different creatures. There’s no way they would be able to talk about mental health together! /s

“Girls are basic and boring”, “Boys are interesting and quirky”

No, I am really not that good in English. I often realise people understand it slightly different than what I meant. But I can’t do anything about it lol

That’s what you take from it? No, I think there should be no reports or articles or mentions on any cases that have not yet been decided upon by a court. A private’s persons life is not ruined by an accusation because it almost never leads to a conviction, regardless of whether they are guilty or not.

What? No, what I mean is that it was known how people were increasingly aligning their opinions to the right for probably more than a decade now. Especially in exactly those areas which now voted for AFD. But instead of doing anything about it then, it was washed aside with: “Eh well it’s all Nazis there anyway! What a bunch of idiots!” and that was it.

Again and again there was the occasional article where all people agreed upon how bad those people are and for a while perhaps being called right-wing or Nazi had some weight in persuading people they should seriously question their opinions. But without any further action, I wonder what people were thinking how this would prevent those people from voting a party like AFD further down the line?!

Now some of them are already at a point where they will just proudly agree that they are right-wing or conservatives. What a surprise.

Depending on how it works out with the AFD in that town, I am sure people in similar places are watching closely. This can escalate quickly. I believe, when this doesn’t turn out as a complete desaster for the town, a kind of domino effect will happen and more people will feel comfortable voting for the AFD. I mean, they are already branded as right-wing Nazis, why not vote accordingly? When a 60 yo village dweller finds he agrees with some of the points the AFD makes and that makes him right-wing, perhaps being right-wing is a good thing? That’s how people work and we need to step in at that point and not wait for a miracle of them suddenly making a mental U-turn.

It’s also important to remember that this is how most abuse cases work out. There is almost never enough evidence because it is almost impossible to proof beyond reasonable doubt. It’s incredibly rare that someone gets convicted in an abuse case, no matter if they actually committed abuse or not. The victim has to basically stand in court with the gunk and fingerprints of the perpetrator still on them and video material that shows it wasn’t self-defense from the other side, for any conviction to actually happen.

What bias?

A huge chunk of feminists are pereptrating hatred of men and are praised for that?

I don’t think we share a reality. Unless with a “huge chunk” you mean one hateful twitter post by one individual or whatever you are referring to.

Otherwise please show to me a few examples where feminists perpetuate hatred towards men. Otherwise I assume you were tricked by some Andrew Tate video into believing there is a conspiracy against men by female raptors in the shadows or something.

So you feel like whenever people talk about how there are unrealistic body standards for women they also have to mention and talk about unrealistic body standards for men.

But at the same time you complain about feminists allegedly talking about feminist issues in discussions about men’s issues.

I feel like something doesn’t sound right with that logic…