I let you have this win, seems like you really need it! XOXO

My liege… I suggest you devote a significant portion of this years penguin budget to reading comprehension. Be well!

It’s there for you to read. The article never said jury nullification needs 12 jurors to vote not guilty.

Nullification is when one or more jurors disregard the law or facts or both and vote for whatever outcome they want. That can end in an acquittal, a hung jury, or even a guilty.

For example, in a criminal case of involving an individual named Carlos Poree in NOLA, the trial defense was insanity. The jury voted guilty. When individually polled the jury admitted they thought he was insane at the time of the offense but would get out early if they voted that way. That case was sent back for the jury to either vote in favor of insanity or acquit.

Here is the NYT Link to get you started if you want to learn more.

The original post said nullification wouldn’t happen bc they would never get all the jurors to vote that way. Thats for acquittal by nullification. For a hung jury they don’t need all the jurors. Sure the DA could try again. This happened with Curtis Flowers in Mississippi

That’s literally the definition of jury nullification which is what this discussion is about.

Congrats on your reign btw. Sounds like a “Happy Feat”

This is New York State specific. When the verdict is announced the jury foreperson announces it in open court after it is shown to the presiding judge. At that point the defense Alan request to poll the individual jurors. Occasionally, there is a discrepancy.

Jury deliberations are secret prior to the verdict being announced. Once announced jurors are free to say whatever they want but cannot be compelled.

If all vote not guilty it’s called an acquittal. If that happens, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in an acquittal. If a mistrial happens, meaning the jury cannot reach a verdict, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in a mistrial.

Source: I have been a public defender in NYC for 15 years.

If all vote not guilty it’s called an acquittal.

Source: I have been a public defender in NYC for 15 years.

If all vote not guilty it’s called an acquittal. If that happens, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in an acquittal. If a mistrial happens, meaning the jury cannot reach a verdict, despite overwhelming evidence of guilt, it is jury nullification ending in a mistrial.

Source: I have been a public defender in NYC for 15 years.

Did you read the article? From the article:

Jury nullification is the term for when a jury declines to convict a defendant despite overwhelming evidence of guilt. This can be a form of civil disobedience, a political statement against a specific law, or a show of empathy and support to the defendant.>

from NY Courts - Criminal Trial

In a jury trial, after all the testimony has been heard and all the evidence has been presented, the Jury is given instructions on the law by the Judge. The jury then goes to the jury room to deliberate, which means to look at and review all the evidence and testimony. The jury tries to make a decision on whether the defendant is guilty or innocent, which is called reaching a verdict. The verdict must be unanimous, meaning every juror must agree on the verdict. If they can’t all agree, this is called a hung jury, and the Judge will have to declare a mistrial. A mistrial does not mean that the case is over. After a mistrial, the prosecutor can choose to try the case again.>

That means as long as one juror refuses to give in to pressure to convict they can nullify. They don’t need 12. In other words jury nullification <> being found not guilty

Never said or implied that those in power wouldn’t use violence to achieve their goals.

My point was the group in power will always oppose the use of force by those they oppress while using violence to oppress them.

As long as one side uses violence (physical, economic, political, etc.) All other sides have to be ready, willing, and able to respond in kind. No one is special. We are all equal.

The trick those with a monopoly on violence use is disguising their violent acts and then getting those they abuse to shame others into submission.

If there was a socialist anarchist revolution I think “Fred” as you call him would keep his guard up and fight like he did up to the point the establishment killed him. I think he understood that just because the people next to you are headed in the same direction doesn’t mean you have the same destination.

Three Arrows YT video “Was Hitler a Socialist”

Three Arrows YT video “Was Hitler a Socialist?”

Three Arrows YT video “Was Hitler a Socialist?”

Three Arrows YT video “Was Hitler a Socialist?”

Watch The Murder of Fred Hampton, and tell me how it’s not currently being done by those in power.

I love your naivety where you think that just because they don’t kill you or your loved ones, because you’re (likely) part of the accepted group, it’s ok to ignore the fact that they kill all the people you don’t care to think about.

(I have no idea who you are. I just think the counter point to your point is equally valid and deserves consideration)

My original comment implied that the world sent a plague in response to Trump. Having trouble understanding the relevance of your comment. But nice try at a point.

I know reading is hard. You need to group letters to form words and words to form sentences. Take breaks when confused. Use ice or aspirin for any headaches.

I don’t think you can think of it as some sort of logical plan. It’s a bug, not a feature, of capitalism. What you are describing is the inevitable end of a completely free market with no regulation. The strong (economically) keep taking from the weak until we have the situation you are describing. From there the next step is dependent upon whether the weak form a cohesive identity and seize power (revolution) or stay fractured around smaller identity cleavages (race, religion, gender, etc) and are subjugated.

Per the CDC

“January 20, 2020

CDC reports the first laboratory-confirmed case of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus in the U.S. from samples taken on January 18 in Washington state and on the same day activates its Emergency Operations Center (EOC) to respond to the emerging outbreak.“

I guess the first time around the world was just as surprised that there were enough morons to elect him. This time the world was more on the ball.

How does the thoughts and prayers contingent not recognize that every time Trump takes office the world sends a plague? Isn’t that in their handbook as being significant?

I love that Adams is there. He literally has no reason to be there other than self promotion. Do you think they discussed the finer points of being indicted federally? Maybe he is trying to get him to ask for a Trump pardon.