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  • Taxes are certainly an issue, but just giving people money is not the answer to poverty.

    There’s a lot of evidence that the solution to “people not having enough money to live” is, in fact, “giving people enough money to live”.

    It is the perpetual poverty machine keeping people impoverished

    AKA Capitalism, sure. With how much you whine about leftists, I’d assume you were all for that. A pretty major plank of conservative platforms is “hurt people more efficiently”.


  • But for someone like me, who thinks helping people become self sufficient and get off of programs like welfare, the numbers don’t look like that’s what’s happening at all.

    This has been proven not to actually help. You know what has? Giving cash to people. Just straight up giving them money. It’s too bad conservatives refuse to believe that and insist on means testing everything and reducing benefits wherever possible.

    There’s another fun thing. One half of the people in this conversation actually listen to experts. The other half considers all experts suspect and presumes they’re all politically motivated (to make them look bad, no doubt.)

    And I like how you shared an article talking about how people in poverty have the highest marginal tax rate. Considering conservatives are constantly cutting tax rates, that’s a delightful irony in your argument. Maybe if we quit giving ten times as much money to rich people and started using that money to support poor people, we could help them better.


  • the disagreements come in about what the right way to do that is.

    I mean, when one side says “these things that help people are failures because they don’t help enough people” and the other side says “but they’re helping people”, that’s not about the right way.

    At no point have you offered an alternative, you’re simply saying “the other side is wrong” while using specious arguments to back it up.

    Do you think conservatives are hatful little Devil’s just trying to hurt people?

    Calling objectively successful policies failures is either extremely ignorant or actively trying to hurt people.