Could you focus on how easy and cheap it is when people are antagonistic? It might help people see it’s not as radical as they think.

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply - so much good info here <3

LOL, I’m not sure. Either jasmine or basmati. I buy 10 kg bags and put them in large plastic containers so the package has been lost to time.

Firstly, I love your username!

You and I have a very similar approach. I know my ‘extreme’ views are off putting. But I make good food that aligns with my views. If people can see how easy (inexpensive and healthy) it is, maybe they will take off the meat goggles, lol.

Hi!

I’m not speaking on behalf of this instance or anyone else on here.

I’m not sure you had the opportunity to see the content of the thread where defederating was discussed? I don’t really browse all and only subscribe to a few communities outside of this instance so I am not super well versed, but when I read that thread, I learned that there are a few communities on your instance that seem to be designed to stir up drama with other communities for whatever reason. I think that is one of the reasons it was being floated. In the end, it didn’t seem to be the right choice for the community.

I’m not sure that it’s easy to pin down harassment to particular users, as people can have multiple accounts across multiple instances. I think this is one of the reasons defederating wasn’t necessarily the right choice for this instance.

I can certainly understand why it would be hurtful to come across people wanting to defederate. I believe with this instance the hope is for things to be discussed publicly as much as possible and for decisions to be made with the community. That can mean having tough discussions about how things impact us and it can get messy. I am very confused about how this earns us the label of tankie, but I will never understand everything ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I’m so sorry to hear that you are unwell!

The clay pot is amazing! Did you learn about purifying the clay online? I recently started taking a wheel pottery class and the instructor mentioned that clay came from my home town. That and how heavily clay my soil is at home got me thinking about if I could do something similar.

Do you have access to a kiln, or will you try and construct your own? I’ve been thinking of getting a burn permit next year to make some biochar with all the woody waste I collect that doesn’t break down very quickly in the compost. I wonder if once I master that I could build a little kiln…

So becoming vegan, I lost lots of friends (although veganism was just one of many things that amounted to that), accidentally converted one to vegetarianism, and only once successfully created another vegan. I’m quite ashamed of how little (perceived) impact I’ve made, but recently I have been quite proud of my one convert as they are my best friend now and I don’t have to deal with carnists on a day to day basis.

It would be wonderful if we could flip a switch and have everyone become vegan just by explaining the facts about the exploitation of animals, but it’s not our burden to carry. This is a generalization, but I don’t think we all became vegan as soon as we understood that certain “foods” came from violence. Each person makes the decision to participate in this violence with every meal. One day it clicked for you. Maybe one day it will click for them. You can’t hold yourself accountable for other people’s actions.

Although I feel conflicted about this one because I don’t believe people are irredeemable, I do think it makes sense to have distance grow between people when their ethics are fundamentally opposed to one’s own. I’m guessing I’m at a different life stage than you, and I don’t want to downplay how hard this sounds like it was. I can share that friendships exist in all sorts of ways and sometimes they wind down because we or they aren’t the same as we were when the friendship started.

I don’t think so! I’m interested to hear what less jaded people say lol

I don’t really try and guide people towards veganism but when people ask me why I’m vegan I say something like “I love animals and I don’t want to harm them.” Or “I don’t think living things should be commodities.”

If you leave it with “I love animals” they will say something like “me too” and I’m too scared of conflict to call that out, so I just lay it out from the start 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hell yeah

What a delicious treat 🤤

This is amazing! So far I have veganized pickle soup lol.

Comrade, this is an established community of friends with certain norms. They may be different from what you are used to elsewhere on the internet. Please understand that we are very protective of these norms because this gives us a nice place online to share what we are doing and meet others with the same values.

Not everyone is looking for what this space provides and I understand it can be hard for things to be different than you are used to.

Come for the jams, stay for the memes.

if one can tone down their ego for a lil bit and not immediately get defensive it’s a pretty nifty tactic.

I said bullying but it’s not really bullying. It’s getting called out on bullshit and refusing to associate with/pretend non vegans are moral people.

Lol my answer is directly related to my answer to last weeks questions

I guess cutting out meat was: I was chilling with some animals and I was like, why the fuck would I eat a living creature??? That’s deranged???

And then I got bullied IRL by vegans and realized I was turning a blind eye to violence I didn’t see directly. The cognitive dissonance lifted. Not commodifying/enslaving animals came with that. I didn’t really think about how this “food” came to be and once I let myself understand I simply could not do it anymore.

This is not something I would have ever considered doing but it looks great! TIL ☺️

I wish I could give you a super clear answer but that’s not realistic for me lol

Maybe this would help: The reason I said something here was because I saw someone who I thought might just have not seen the rules. I’m not trying to give people a hard time.

I don’t think I see an argument for it being beneficial to the community to name brands in the title or body of the OP, unprompted. If someone asks, that’s at least a prompt that makes sense to me.

Unsolicited personal opinion: I do think it’s important for people to understand that some ‘vegan’ products were developed through direct harm to animals. It’s good to have a little think about what you are choosing to buy and why.

Oh! I don’t see myself interjecting in someone’s conversation in the comments.

Hi!

Here is my take: this is not intended to be a recipe site, it’s intended to share what you have cooked. Maybe posts with that level of detail would be better suited to c/recipes ?

I’m not trying to discourage people from sharing how they cooked something in this community if that’s what they would like to do. I am suggesting this as a way to keep this space brand free while not discouraging your contributions.

What do you think?