Lets take a little break from politics and have us a real atheist conversation.

Personally, I’m open to the idea of the existence of supernatural phenomena, and I believe mainstream religions are actually complicated incomplete stories full of misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and half-truths.

Basically, I think that these stories are not as simple and straightforward as they seem to be to religious people. I feel like there is a lot more to them. Concluding that all these stories are just made up or came out of nowhere is kind of hard for me.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    13 days ago

    There are however videos featuring things that cannot be explained rationally

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_effect

    Also

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_(illusion)

    I saw David Copperfield walk through the Great Wall of China on live TV. I don’t think he actually walked through the Great Wall of China. I also don’t think he made the Statue of Liberty disappear.

    I also saw Teller of Penn and Teller drown in a water tank with my own eyes at a live show and he stayed there, dead and unmoving, for the entire intermission. Then he was back on stage a few minutes later.

    I do not think Teller drowned and came back from the dead even though that is exactly what I saw.

    • aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      13 days ago

      Yeah, most unexplained videos go through verifications to make sure it’s not FX, and when it’s not, it’s how they end up unexplained. This is especially common in the UFO community.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Verification by whom? Why should that person or people be trusted? Do they already have a bias towards believing in the supernatural?

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            13 days ago

            Now you’re just lying. The Pentagon has done no such thing. The closest they have even come to what you are claiming is saying they can’t explain it.

            • aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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              13 days ago

              Yes, that’s what I’m trying to tell you. Unexplained. That means that The Pentagon has tried to figure out what they were looking at, but they left it as unexplained. We’ve also had many UAP hearings in congress where they disclosed a bunch of UFOs, and alien stuff. Anyway, yeah. The US govt is embracing the possible existence of extraterrestrial life running around here on Earth.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                13 days ago

                No. This is what you said:

                Yeah, most unexplained videos go through verifications to make sure it’s not FX, and when it’s not, it’s how they end up unexplained. This is especially common in the UFO community.

                Then I asked who did that and you said:

                The Pentagon.

                They did not do that, you’re just lying.

                • aLaStOr_MoOdY47@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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                  13 days ago

                  But they are the ones who released those videos of US navy pilots encountering a UFO, and labeled it as unexplained. Why are you saying that I’m lying?

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                    13 days ago

                    Again, this was your claim:

                    Yeah, most unexplained videos go through verifications to make sure it’s not FX, and when it’s not, it’s how they end up unexplained. This is especially common in the UFO community.

                    The U.S. military did not do that. Period. It is a lie to claim it did.