i’m seriously considering permanently abandoning laptops in favor of tablets. i spent a day working on my wife’s tablet today and it was fine enough for when you’re on the go that the small screen isn’t too much of an issue. plus, you get an extended battery life, no noise, more comfort carrying it around, and the best of all, for much less money

the biggest downside is that, since tablets are technically embedded devices, they’re much more locked up and you basically have no access to the system with the stock rom

so im looking for a cheap tablet ($100-$200), around 10 inches, that i can easily (or at least reliably) install linux to. any recommendations?

  • dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml
    21·
    2 days ago

    check out dell latitude 5285/5290 2-in-1. they are Surface Pro lookalikes with detachable keyboards, but with way service-friendlier interior - easy to open and SSD, comms, battery can be easily replaced, whereas RAM is soldered. the screens (12" 1920x1200 IPS mutlitouch) are gorgeous and the hardware isn’t too shabby, kabylake (7xxxu) and kabylake-r (8xxxu), with standard UEFI BIOS so you can install Linux and have SecureBoot even. I can get them locally for $100-150, dependent on config and equipment (even less if they’re without battery and keyboard).

    edit: yeah, I misunderstood your idea, I thought you wanted a cheap linux tablet. what you actually want is a fantasy - an ultra-portable device with huge battery autonomy running linux and such a thing doesn’t exist, for any kind of money.

    namely, the mentioned dells are twice the heft of a normal android tablet and the battery autonomy is laughable; not only is it not an improvement over a normal laptop, it’s likely to be worse, as that thing’s essentially a laptop with extras, like touch, gyros, etc.

    then comes the real hammer - touching the thing. Gnome and Plasma (and their derivatives) have touch support but if you’re coming from an android or iOS tablet, that support is in its infancy. it’s crude, inconsistent, flaky, and not very well propagated throughout the system. it’s way better than it was a few years ago, but this is not something you’ll want to hang your career or education on.

    you can tweak the thing into something semi-usable, and for the price (around $100) that’s a worthwhile endeavour and cute hobby project. it bears repeating, it is not daily driver material, and that includes way pricier solutions - saw a Ryzen 6-series the other day for like $700; everything I’ve written applies to it as well.

    • JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2·
      3 days ago

      Well, i have the 5290 laptop (not the tablet)(i5-8350u) for a year now. It’s great, practically pocketable, upgradable everything except the cpu (obivously), decent materials, a decent keyboard, etc. But the display is terrible.

  • oo1@lemmings.worldEnglish
    4·
    3 days ago

    Have you looked at ubuntu touch supported devices?

    That might do some tablets - although i guess they’re focussed on phones - and I think have very little resources.

    • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.brOP
      22·
      4 days ago

      pine stuff has excellent cost/benefit, but…

      Package cannot be shipped to your country due to logistical reasons.

      ☹️

      • utopiah@lemmy.ml
        7·
        3 days ago

        FWIW I do use a PineTab2 on a daily basis and… it works. I can warmly recommend it but some caveats :

        • WiFi didn’t work for a while, it’s good now though (mostly stable, AFAICT no instability for me)
        • BT still does not work (not ideal if you need a mouse)
        • USB-C is a single port for charging, single port for devices, iirc usb-C hubs don’t work, only usb-C to A single converters
        • it’s… not fast, so if your workflow is a bit of Web browser or a text editor great, if it’s Blender or Gimp or anything that can be a bit demanding, it might test your patience
        • WebCam does not work, problematic if you have to do video calls

        Overall while keeping such limitations in mind, still recommended! (if you can get it shipped somehow)

        • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.brOP
          2·
          2 days ago

          thanks for the review

          honestly that wouldn’t be reliable enough for me to daily drive at work, but i’m definitely getting one to play with once i have a little money to throw away

      • interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works
        11·
        4 days ago

        Depending on your country you can use a remailer. I used to use one when I lived in the middle east and couldn’t order from the US. I has a bunch of addresses worldwide you can use to order and they aggregate and forward the packages.

          • interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            4 days ago

            I used shop and ship but there wasn’t much choice in the UAE. It belonged to Aramex at the time which was a respected UPS like in the region. It was a while back. I can’t speak for what they are worth now and how they work in places where Aramex isn’t as well implanted.

  • nabladabla@sopuli.xyz
    13·
    4 days ago

    For proper desktop Linux in that price range a used surface is a choice. It’ll be bigger and less battery life than an android tablet and I don’t know what the fan situation is in the generations in that price range now.

    Another option is go with an Android tablet that has LineageOS support. You get fullish access to the system, but the system is still Android, so depends on what you want if that works for you.

    • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.brOP
      1·
      3 days ago

      Another option is go with an Android tablet that has LineageOS support. You get fullish access to the system, but the system is still Android, so depends on what you want if that works for you.

      that’s an acceptable possibilty, too. from my experience with my wife’s tablet, android is fine to work with now that emacs is available

        • krash@lemmy.ml
          7·
          3 days ago

          I have a surface Go Gen1 and linux worked flawlessly on it. The bootup was tricky af though.

          There is a tiny linux surface community that I created here on Lemmy, ask your questions there and I’ll be happy to help (while making the answers avaible to others In the same situation): https://lemmy.ml/c/surfacelinux

          • Zangoose@lemmy.world
            1·
            3 days ago

            I haven’t checked back on it since I stopped using reddit (and I no longer use a surface pro) but there was a pretty active surface Linux community there as well with some good resources. For a lot of models you’ll need a USB keyboard/mouse to actually install the distro but once you can load the custom surface linux kernel things worked pretty well for me.

          • Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            3 days ago

            I have one and it works almost flawlessly on Fedora without the surface kernel.

            The only issue is that my bluetooth mouse takes time to be detected.

            Also it’s tricky to make the Surface Go boot a Usb Drive if I remember correctly.

  • Decipher0771@lemmy.ca
    15·
    4 days ago

    I was in a similar boat, and ended up buying a used convertible tablet from eBay instead. Much more Linux friendly, 12” Toshiba Dynabook. Might be a better option.

    • phanto@lemmy.ca
      1·
      4 days ago

      This is a bit of a slog, but I have tailscale and rdclient running on an iplay mini 50. I have a SIM card in it, but I am on wifi 95% of the time, and it connects back to my desktop at home running Fedora. Not quite as good as being in front of it, but it’s a pretty reliable workflow, and I can switch the same remote session to my laptop if I need more screen size.

  • Eugenia@lemmy.mlEnglish
    63·
    3 days ago

    You are making a mistake. You are comparing an Android or iOS tablet, that have a user interface that makes sense for these devices, and you’re trying to shoehorn Linux in them, and expect the same “fine enough”. It won’t be, because while it might work, it won’t be ideal. Linux was optimized to be used as a desktop OS, with a mouse or touchpad. You’d have to install something like LineageOS to get it working properly, but then you will lose the cool abilities of a linux desktop for the most part. Conclusion: get a tablet if you want, but don’t throw away your laptop.

    Edit: Also, this was posted just an hour ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H669Fwtv-3o

      • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.brOP
        4·
        3 days ago

        when it comes to regular old gahnoo slash linux, she’s right. plasma, gnome, lxde, etc, were not made with a touch screen interface as a main form of interaction in mind. touch capabilities in the usual linux des tend to be an afterthought in my experience

    • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.brOP
      2·
      3 days ago

      maybe you’re right. that’s something i’ve been thinking about too, which is why i said a rooted android tablet with lineageos would also be an acceptable option.

      but considering i have a desktop already and having a tablet for mobile computing, a laptop feels more and more like an awkward intermediate. laptops, i think, make more sense when you only have the laptop, but i really don’t see a situation where a laptop offers me something a desktop+table combo wouldn’t.

  • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    5·
    4 days ago

    The Lenovo IdeaPad Duet works with postmarketos (mobile Linux), keep in mind considering your price range and considering its a tablet you’re lucky to get 4gb of ram at most.

  • rsolva@lemmy.world
    4·
    4 days ago

    If you can find a secound hand Fujitsu R727, they are great linux tablets! But they are not as common, in my experience.

  • mFat@lemdro.idEnglish
    31·
    3 days ago

    I think any Linux device with out a proper keyboard is a pain to use. Mini laptops are better choices.

    • markstos@lemmy.world
      5·
      3 days ago

      Counterpoint: for those who prefer split ergo keyboards, the internal keyboard on laptops is rarely used.

      A tablet where you can bring your own weird keyboard to pair with it is better.