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    Conservatism only works when you have something to conserve.

    We’re inheriting a dying world. Why would I want to conserve the actions and attitudes that precipitated that?

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      Exactly. It happened with older generations because they bought property. Most people under 40 can barely afford rent.

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        Hey now, as an older than 40 who has never been reasonably able to afford rent, don’t forget us olds.

        Honestly, same shit was happening to Gen X, which is why everyone was so aloof and “over it,” just more of them managed to be brainwashed than millennials and Gen Z. It was a lot harder to fight against the indoctrination when literally every stupid fuck around you would parrot this shit until their deathbed, and their generation massively outnumbered yours.

        Now Gen Z and millennials are more populous, and the script has indeed been flipped.

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        Bit over 40 here stressing about my next place to live. It’s getting so expensive. When I started thus latest job I was a bit desperate due ro a year without work, and I basically asked for pay that would allow me to afford a single room apartment at the time. I’ve had raises since, and it still feels like I can barely afford the same thing. One of my uncles thinks my opinion doesn’t matter because I don’t own a home, so I’m “unsuccessful”, and we should listen to successful home owners like them.

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    We’re incapable of mounting a defence of our objectively moronic positions, so we’ll just smugly insist you’ll understand when you grow up.

    Brought to you by the entitled cunts that robbed the global economy and destroyed the environment, dooming the entire species.

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      We’re incapable of… (E:) mounting a defence of our objectively moronic positions, so we’ll just smugly insist you’ll understand when you grow up.

      Words said by the utterly deranged

      EDIT: Clearly my lack of willingness to type out the full quote left the wrong message, I am agreeing with the comment I am replying to.

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          I’m agreeing with you, I was just too lazy to type out the whole thing. Those who are two smug are the deranged ones. I’m on my computer now and can copy/paste without getting a headache

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    AFAIK turning conservative in your 30’s only happens when you own property, and don’t fully understand how you made it.

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      I own a property and don’t fully understand how I made it but I’m not conservative. Fake it till you make it baby.

      Also I’m aware generalisations always have anomalies, maybe I’m an anomaly.

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    As I’ve gotten older, conservatism has gone from “opinions I don’t share” with to “opinions I vehemently oppose”.

    Conservatives have offered NOTHING of value during my lifetime. It’s all hate and fear mongering and pulling up ladders.

    I have no interest in any of that.

    I have a feeling whoever came up with that catchy saying was always a conservative douche and was just trying to make himself feel better about it.

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      I think a lot of it shook out of the hippie movement, where some people were just self serving narcissists that wanted to do drugs, have sex, and didn’t want fight in a war. Then when they got families and jobs they didn’t want government “stealing” their money to help other people, and so they “became” conservatives.

      So they just assume narcissistic motivation applies to everyone.

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        I’ll never forget the reason one boomer told me. They used to be a “leftist” hippy, but is now your typical conservative sucker. When I asked what happened to cause that change, I got the answer, “Just stopped caring about others.” That’s exaxtly the attitude you’re describing.

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        Yeah, when boomers were getting into their thirties, the free-loving sixties were being replaced by the threat of AIDs and nuclear war. I guess I can get why those things might make people “conservative”. Not that that word means what it meant then anymore.

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      The sad thing is, in the US at least, we really need the conservatives to do actual conservative things. There is a definite benefit to looking at government action with a critical viewpoint, and saying “Should we be paying for this? Should it cost this much? Should we even be allowed to do this?” Unfortunately, they’ve abandoned that important role in favor of deepthroating corporations, peddling FSB propaganda, and forcing their version of the bible on everyone.

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        Absolutely agree. But like you said, Republicans are no longer small government nor fiscal responsibility.

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      As others have pointed out, the likely cause is that politics doesn’t change with age, it changes with one’s investment in the status quo. The most likely reason that this effect is breaking down is because most people born after Reagan’s presidency were never given any means to become invested in this system. If you’ve got no assets and lots of debt, fearmongering that immigrants are coming to take your job or wealth doesn’t work.

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    “You’ll get more conservative when you start paying taxes.”

    I have rubbed a bunch of faces in this one as well.

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      That’s even dumber. You’re paying taxes either way, the difference is what you’re paying for with them. I’d rather them go towards healthcare than corporate bailouts and military contractors.

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    For that to work tough enough people have to be better off than their folks. Boomers hoarded the power and money, and now they try to cheat to keep it as the next two generations remain more liberal than expected with age.

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      I apologize, I thought I crossposted it to another meme group. I was going to argue with you, but it looks like this one’s on me. Should I delete it?

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    I started voting conservative at 18, because my parents did and I didn’t know who to vote for (we have compulsory voting in my country). Swapped to the other side late 20s and now mid 30s I can’t see it changing anytime soon.

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      Looks like someone wasn’t paying attention then.

      Edit: okay that was a little harsh. But maybe I will still say if that was what you focused on and took away from the pandemic it seems like you missed the bigger picture of politics and perspectives of who was actually using science to guide choices and who has people’s best interests in mind.

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        Democrat politicians constantly passed all these covid restrictions and then partied in Republican-led areas like Florida and Texas, or just violated their own rules.

        That did not give me the impression that they cared.

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          Omg so shocking politicians are corrupt ass hats who literally exist in a different class than the rest of us.

          Sounds like you’ve just always been a rube. So are you going further left or just voting for the people who literally tell you they don’t care?

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            You’re delusional if you think any politicians actually care about anyone but themselves.

            But the point is, I’m not comfortable with politicians deciding what’s “essential” and what isn’t, then ignoring the rules they set by partying in Florida.

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            They at least understood that you can’t keep people locked down forever and let the government decide what’s “essential” and what’s not. Even Democrats understood this, so that’s why they vacationed in Florida and Texas.

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              It’s always fun watching the “I hate politicians” Republicans ONLY be able to explain how they think it’s their right to piss on those lower than them via politicians, then immediately cheer politicians who are directly and openly working against their best interests.

              “Yes he’s stealing from me but he’ll let me steal from you if I vote for him”

              -Republicans in a nutshell

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                  You haven’t mentioned politics once, only politicians. Nobody buys your “centrist” bullshit anymore bro. A quick perusal of your history shows exactly who you are, and nobody cares.

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          Just because other people are hypocritical and disregard the well being of others doesn’t mean that’s what you should aspire to.

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            No, but what made me upset is that every single one of these hypocrites got re-elected. The Democrats need to do better. Just because they’re Team Blue doesn’t mean they’re good people or even have anyone’s best interests in minds.

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                Have you not noticed that’s exactly what politics became in the US? Everybody would rather be in an echo chamber with other fans of their team than listen to anything the other side has to say.