#quietpartoutloud

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    “Many of them murdered far more than one person,” Trump declared. “A murderer, I believe this, it’s in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.”

    And he will still be normalized as a presidential candidate by this evenings news and by the country on election day.

    I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

      Absolutely fucking not!

      It is literally a matter of life and death that we not only stay mad about this, but get a Hell of a lot madder than we already are!

    • skeezix@lemmy.world
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      come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

      “This” is what happens when a society has no hope. A brutal side effect of economic policy and fleecing of the population over the past 30 years. People turn to religion and strong men for succour. They are swayed by bullshit and manipulated to serve the interests of the powerful.

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      3 hours ago

      NYT tomorrow: “Harris under fire for [placeholder] after controversial Trump radio interview”

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      The majority of us most certainly are NOT; the sane ones are just underrepresented in our archaic voting system.

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      FYI, I’m not ok with this. Tho’ I’m glad he’s saying the ‘quiet part out loud’, so that there can be no question on the importance of voting him and the rest of the GOP down in this election.

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      I guess it’s that time of day to come to grips that the USA is ok with this.

      A relatively small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to keep them in power and make them rich, another small subset of people are okay with this as long as it continues to be targeted exclusively at people they don’t like, and a relatively large subset of people are victims of propaganda and media saturation. Let’s put the blame where it belongs.

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        I don’t know if it’s a relatively small subset when there’s a fair chance he might be elected if people don’t go vote, or vote for a third party candidate.

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          Most of the people who vote for him will never be informed about the most appalling and repulsive things he says, because all their news comes filtered through media streams that are designed to prop up the conservative candidate, no matter who, and to discredit the facts that makes that candidate look bad.

          But even if everyone who voted for him knew he said these things, they would still be the minority of Americans, because he lost the popular vote in 2016.

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            I’m not surprised. That’s how one of my best friends became an Andrew Tate and conservative supporter. YouTube algorithms got to him with these videos of cherry picked clips with comments from other supporters and his cohort of fraudulent assholes.

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            I’m not surprised. That’s how one of my best friends became an Andrew Tate and conservative supporter. YouTube algorithms got to him with these videos of cherry picked clips with comments from other supporters and his cohort of fraudulent assholes.

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          That would be the large subset who are victims of propaganda. I refuse to believe that such a large percentage of the country would actually be as awful as they seem if it wasn’t for the propaganda machine doing its thing.

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            You’d be surprised how our system turns people into sociopaths. It enables them and even rewards them.

            Just look at the richest people in our society and how most of them have sociopathic tendencies. They lack empathy.

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            Lol, they buy into the propaganda because it aligns with their beliefs. They aren’t victims if blatant racist shit like this.

            Victims of the taxes too high propaganda, sure. But not this.

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              … unless you’re saying it’s in their genes to be racist, then something convinced them that racism is correct. And that thing is a mixture of parents’ teaching and propaganda. And the parents got it from propaganda and their parents, etc.

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                It is how they were raised and their life experiences that influence their worldview. But as adults, they should have learned better.

                Willful ignorance is their own fault.

          • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.social
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            Trump is currently controlling the largest cult outside of religion in the US. His core is going to take a long time to deprogram enough to return to society when he finally stops getting a platform to mobilize them all. Some of them were awful people before Trump, but so many everyday people got pulled into the cult through Fox or Facebook or Twitter and their conditioning keeps them loyal.

            I think contrary to at least some cult leaders, Trump has nothing but absolute disgust for his followers, and uses them solely to get him power and to grift so he can afford to keep the machine of hate going.

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        You can talk about the reasons voters might be tricked, incentivized, propagandized, etc. into voting for Trump but at the end of the day they are making the decision to support this kind of thing of their own free will. Placing the blame somewhere else is easy. The hard part is coming to terms with the fact that the fundamental problem is not a shady group of billionaires gaming the system but rather a population too dumb and lazy to see those actions for what they are. That problem isn’t going away even if we get rid of all billionaires and enforce stricter truthfulness in broadcasting laws.

        I’m not denying it would get easier to manage if did those things but we have to recognize that the people you’re talking about are willing participants in this and not just victims being taken advantage of.

    • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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      If they want to look for these “bad genes”, all the Republicans have to do is look in a mirror.