• TotallyNotSpez@startrek.website
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    2 months ago

    But how are you supposed to smoke at home when smoke detectors are required by law already and cigs keep setting them off? Not everybody lives in a gaff with a balcony or in a house with a garden behind.

    Plus, I don’t like smoking at home either. Just glad I got a balcony for that.

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      2 months ago

      That’s the neat part, you’re not supposed to smoke at all.
      They can’t ban cigarettes outright, yet. But they can make sure it isn’t publicly visible, cool, or easy to do anymore.
      Smokers are supposed to be forced into enclosed, limited rooms just for smoking, separating it from all other activities.
      The goal is to break the cycle that gets young people to start smoking.

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            2 months ago

            I’d rather be near someone vaping than a drunk person.

            The vaping I can walk away from, but a drunk driver could kill me.

            I find public drunkenness to be more deadly and problematic than vaping, but that just my opinion regarding public health issues.

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                2 months ago

                No, but they could at least show some consistency.

                At the moment it is all focussed on tobacco and almost none on alcohol except during driving.

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                2 months ago

                It’s not a competition, but priorities. The things that kill innocent people should be higher on the list when writing new policies. Clearly the policies in place are not enough to prevent drunk driving and people are still getting killed from it. It’s still a problem and has been a problem and we should focus on that more than we currently are.

                If people are still driving drunk with it being illegal and we can’t even get that under control with current laws, how can we expect the new laws regarding vaping to be productive?

                And tbh this is quite personal. I’ve lost a friend to drunk driving about every 2 years since I turned 18. My friend’s alcoholic father murdered him when I was younger. I’ve seen nothing good come from that shit and it destroys lives. I don’t see vaping as even remotely comparable to the destruction alcohol can do.

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            Show me the statistics of how many people got cancer from second hand smoke in outdoor areas. I’ll wait. Just make cigarettes fucking expensive, like in Australia. Make smokers pay more for health insurance. There’s so many good ways of handling the problem. Banning people from smoking outside is just fuel for all the fucking Nazis that would love to get rid of the EU. And it won’t change a fucking Thing. As if people would suddenly stop smoking outside when no one is around.

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        2 months ago

        Then most certainly can ban it altogether, and as a smoker I wish they fucking would. Force my ass to not be able to buy them anymore.

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      I sure as hell don’t like breathing secondhand smoke while I walk down the street. If you want to breathe petroleum that’s on you but do it where you don’t give secondhand cancer to others, thanks.

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      2 months ago

      Not really a non smokers problem to figure out your addictions short comings.

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      Smoke detectors don’t respond to cigarette smoke, unless you cram one smoker per m² in a room and have them all smoke half a pack, with all windows shut.

      I have seen indoor parties at flats with smoke detectors, which never went off, despite heavy smoking indoors. Meanwhile something burning on the stove set off the detector, as it should.

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      Sounds like shitty smoke detectors to me.
      I used to smoke heavily for years, was always too lazy to go out on the balcony, sometimes forgot to open the windows for days and my detectors only went off once when I vaped so heavily my apartment looked like a disco dance floor (from fog machines).

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      2 months ago

      Maybe try to not smoke. No need to say thank you. Say it to your lungs.

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        2 months ago

        I quit for several years and eventually started again, realising that quitting smokes is not for me. I’m living a fairly stressful life. I need my occasional 5 mins of peace and quiet every now and then during the day. Thank you very much.