I do think they will essentially die. They will morph into completely different websites, but I think they will be around for a long time, and I think their userbase won’t shrink even a bit.

Big websites are slowly adopting the facebook model: All the content is hidden and requires you login to view it. Creating an account requires some sort of personally identifying information like a phone number, photo of ID, mailing address, etc.

The old model simply turned out to be unprofitable. It was always done under the motto of “bring the people and the money will come” and so they made it as easy as possible to build up a large user base, but it turns out that motto is false on the internet, and investors have finally realized it. There is no point in having a massive user base if they don’t actually generate a profit for you. Anonymous internet users do not do this. They are indistinguishable from bots. If they don’t use adblock, they don’t click on ads. They don’t donate money. Yet they use up the majority of the server resources.

It used to be that you at least needed anonymous users to generate content for you, but (in part thanks to facebok) non-anonymous usage of the internet has become normalized. If anything the best content will come from someone who has their real name, and profile picture attached to the content they submit. The anonymous nobody is much less likely to post anything valuable.

I think the internet as we know it is dead, and tbh I don’t even blame big corporations for this. I blame mass tech illiteracy, and people’s willingness to sacrifice their privacy for some dopamine hits.

  • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1312·
    1 year ago

    Yup, even Digg is still around. Like you, I think reddit will be around for many more years. The content quality, which is already bad, will continue to get worse.

    I didn’t migrate to Lemmy to help kill reddit. I’m here to help Lemmy grow. It’s already a better experience in some ways. Rough around the edges, and needs some features and fixes, but I feel like the user base is already much better than reddit is.

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
      40·
      1 year ago

      Yup, even Digg is still around. Like you, I think reddit will be around for many more years. The content quality, which is already bad, will continue to get worse.

      Digg?

      Hell Fark is still there. And for that matter, Craigslist discussion forums are too.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.world
        11·
        1 year ago

        Usenet is still around.

        It’s not a site but an actual system and predates (by quite a lot) the Web.

        It’s was the social media equivalent back in the old days of the early 90s Internet (before AOL linked to it, before the WWW, even before Gopher).

        After that came IRC (which funnilly enough is also still around, along with modern clones of it such as Discord) as well as online forums (which themselves are the descendants of the old BBSs, minus the whole modem comms part).

        So far in my experience, the only tech that “dies” (well, there often is a handful of people who still do it for fun) is that which is tied to specific hardware (i.e. you don’t really have BBSs anymore because people don’t use modems to connect to a central systems via the phone line anymore) as pure software can live forever on top of emulators or just be reimplemented whilst preserving core features.

        • synae[he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
          2·
          1 year ago

          Here’s some fun history/background on Hi5-

          Hi5 was bought by Tagged which was bought by The Meet Group (MeetMe).

          I worked at Tagged when the acquisition happened, but was not in the team that made the technical changes necessary to migrate the product.

          Tagged and Hi5 are now essentially the same site with barely-different skins - the current site is an evolution of Tagged. I believe the Hi5 codebase was scrapped, for the most part.

          A few years later, The Meet Group bought Tagged (which had rebranded its company - not the products - as “if(we)” by that point).

          This is tangential, but I feel compelled to share: I started my job at Tagged due to another acquisition, when Tagged bought Digsby (company: dotSyntax), a multi protocol instant messenger, social network, and email desktop app which me and some friends built from nothing. We were the first 3rd party client for Facebook messenger, and I believe MySpace IM as well :)

          I doubt anyone cares about these properties anymore, but if anyone has questions I’m happy to answer what I can.