• nifty@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I am tired of anti-car people pretending that removing cars from roads isn’t going to replace the empty space with shipping trucks. America is not Europe, it’s not a robust welfare state.

    The other side of this is the fact that many people don’t want to use public transport. I’ve used excellent public transport in the EU, I still hate other people and don’t want to travel with them.

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      2 months ago

      That’s why anti-car people also advocate for better urban planning that still include cars but don’t make them the only viable option. And why can’t it be? America has the money.

      The other side of this is the fact that many people do want to use public transport. I’ve driven in some excellent cars, I hate other drivers and don’t want to drive with them and I hate how ugly my city/ suburb is due to needing to have wide roads everywhere.

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        The other side of this is the fact that many people do want to use public transport. I’ve driven in some excellent cars, I hate other drivers and don’t want to drive with them and I hate how ugly my city/ suburb is due to needing to have wide roads everywhere

        Great, just please don’t force your preferences on someone else.

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      2 months ago

      Why would less cars mean more shipping trucks? I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here.

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            2 months ago

            Companies which rely on transporting products between different locations (like Amazon, UPS etc) will make use of emptier roads to transport more goods. More empty roads = more opportunities for operational efficiency for transportation companies

            Edit which isn’t a bad thing per se, companies should get to be more efficient, but not at the expense of tax payers who don’t want to subject themselves to public transport

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              2 months ago

              I think this is easily solved with increased fees on trucking, which is something we should be doing anyway since heavy vehicles are responsible for almost all of the wear and tear in the roads. Right now they don’t pay their fair share of the damage they cause.

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                Maybe but such companies are also very good at lobbying so it’s not “easily fixable”

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                  2 months ago

                  True. Politically this would be tough but if we’re restricting private automobiles we’re already in magical Christmasland to some extent.