• TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You know what, the American obsession with guns has never been anything to do with “protection”, it’s about being ammosexual.

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Most people who carry guns are doing it for self-defense, not civil defense.

      The rules of an Active-shooter event are:

      1. Flee
      2. If you can’t flee, hide.
      3. If you can’t hide, fight back.

      Carrying a concealed weapon doesn’t change that. I have a little 380 pocket pistol I’ll occasionally carry. It’s low-capacity, low-power, and low-accuracy. No way am I volunteering to take on a psychopath with a long gun who isn’t worried about collateral damage with my little pea shooter, and anyone Who expects me too just because I’m armed can kiss my ass.

      I carry a pistol to protect me from muggers and car-jackers, not to protect the public.

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        2 months ago

        Having the general public feeling that they need to carry a gun for self defense just sounds crazy to me.

        Stabbings have risen here in the UK but generally it’s either a rare occasion where some nutter is on the run or it’s gang related. In general I would never feel the need to carry my own knife around for self defense. I don’t know anyone who carries a knife around with them for self defense.

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          2 months ago

          Would anyone you know tell you if they carried a knife for self-defense, given that it’s generally a crime to do so in the UK?

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            2 months ago

            Close friends sure and yes you need to have a good reason as to why you’re walking around with a knife in public.

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              It’s similar in a lot of states in the US. You aren’t legally allowed to carry a knife for self defense, or as a weapon, but recently in my state, the laws were changed so that you can carry any size blade without a reason. So if you say “I carry a knife for defense” you’ll get fined/arrested and your knife would be confiscated, but if you say “it’s for cutting stuff” or nothing at all, thats legal.

              IANAL. Read your local knife laws.

        • The Menemen!@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Imo only an idiot would carry a knife for self-defence, especially if untrained. If someone (probably women especially) feels unsafe, carrying CS-spray would be more reasonable imo.

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            2 months ago

            Its weird you got downvotes. A knife is a terrible weapon for self-defense, the odds of you getting fucked up by your own knife are extremely high. Pepper spray is far superior to a knife for any realistic self-defense situation.

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              2 months ago

              I knew a paramedic who said that the winner of a knife fight was the one who died in the ambulance instead of on the scene.

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              Doubt they carry knifes for self-defence. But then, gang-members are probably not the people with the best education.

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          Almost all of our gun violence is the same, gang/drug related. The media here acts like it’s random killings all over the place, its not. You have a better chance of drowning in a pool than getting killed by an ar15 here, yet people, even in this thread, think it’s something that happens like every 3 seconds.

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          I’d feel fine with someone carrying a weapon if it’s based on a reasonable fear, and they make an effort to stay trained/safe with the weapon. For instance, they exited an abusive relationship with a significant other who feels they “belong” to them.

          But there’s a lot of people who stretch the statement of “I don’t feel safe” to far more cases than make sense.