like you go to the not-believing-until-seeing convention with lies and what? expect to get away with it?

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    Money corrupts absolutely everything: science, politics, people…

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        From the outside it’s not obvious how many variables influence scientific research that have absolutely nothing to do with science or the pursuit of knowledge and truth.

        Being scientifically literate is insufficient. We must also be highly sceptical and apply critical thinking to the work of other scientists, particularly when large sums of money are involved and the inevitable conflicts of interest that entails.

        People with money are able to fund research but they will never be scientists because they are only interested in what is true to the extent it will make money.

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      This kind of behavior would still exist without money. People would still fake stuff for the clout.

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          That’s only because money exists. If you removed money from the equation, clout would be the new currency that everyone lies and cheats for.

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              OK, so money corrupts, money exists, everything is corrupt. What’s the point of pointing that out?

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            But being caught in a lie would destroy your clout instantly. If they’re competing for clout there would be a big incentive to prove the competition wrong.

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              There is something to that, in that money gained will be kept (unless lawsuits can claw it away for fraud), but with both scenarios the ethically lacking individual would still have enjoyed the time until they were caught and future money/clout would both be hampered.

              As for competition, that sounds the same to me. There is already competition for positions and grants, etc.

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        That is absolute nonsense. Where does the idea that the nastiest expression of desires is the truest come from? It’s a completely absurd and unverifiable idea.

        People do stuff, putting people in power over others tends to result in the people doing worse stuff. The variable we can tweak here is the power.

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          Power gives people the freedom to act as they choose, and they choose a lot of nastiness. Does it not make sense that unconstrained choices represent who a person truly is?

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      I mean, science doesn’t pay for itself. You need libraries, you need universities, you need equipment. Only a mathematician can get by with a $5 black board and stack of chalk, and even then not very well.