Fox News did not air a second of the speeches from alienated GOP leaders and former Trump officials who endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris at this week’s Democratic National Convention.

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    It’s OK! Republicans are KNOWN for doing their Own Research and will SURELY find these Clips on their Own!

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      The sad part is this is how people in the DNC must actually think to give these assholes speaking time at their convention when the only commendable thing they ever did was admit to making a mistake most Americans were smart enough to not make in the first place

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        This is not a great take. This isn’t about reaching out to MAGA voters, it’s about reaching out to independents. Fox exposure would not have been great anyway.

        Go off on sticking to your principles and ridiculing anyone that took longer than you to see the light (you are so smart you probably always had the political views you have), but I am keen to win this election and preserve democracy, which means a big tent with no minimal gatekeeping.

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      No but don’t you understand kiddo? Genocides perpetrated by republicans are unconscionable, but genocides perpetrated by democrats are just savvy politicking.

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          I’ll never understand why you MAGA propagandists want the guy who bombed the shit out of Yemen to help Israel “finish the job” before turning against Ukraine and then domestically. But I think genocide is bad, so that’s the difference, I suppose.

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              Only one of two candidates will win. So, unlike you MAGAs, I’m voting for the outcome that won’t include Donald “finishing the job.”

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                You are the reason the Democrats are doing genocide. If they knew they’d lose voters because of their stance on Israel they would be forced to change their platform. They believe they can commit unlimited genocide because their voters are loyal dogs who will beg for more.

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                  It’s actually people voting third party that forces Dems to chase people who will actually vote for them. 1/3 of the country doesn’t vote at all. If everyone voted so that the Repub platform was nonviable, the parties would have to move left to compete.

                  Why do you hate Ukrainians so much that you want them to be genocided? Why do you hate women so much that you want them to be unwilling incubators?

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              Please tell me who to vote for that has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning that is against genocide?

              I usually vote third party. I fucking love Jill Stein. But keeping Trump out of office is far too important. Trump wants to hand Bibi all of Palestine. Harris can and will be pushed to ending weapons sales. Pressure will get to where she has no choice. Trump doesn’t respond to anything other than what his crazy brain wants at the time.

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          If we stop supporting Israel in an election year trump wins. Is that hard to understand?

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            Okay, so if supporting Israel will make Democrats win then you don’t need my vote. Clearly you’re going to win without me. 🤷‍♀️

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                I voted for Democrats every year since fucking 2012. Genocide is my red line.

                You’ll vote for them when they’re rounding us into camps.

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    Maybe i’m in the minority here, but inviting republicans from the bush years to speak at the DNC isn’t actually that reassuring to me if I care about stopping genocide, or think that the US foreign policy as a whole is bad and wrong.

    Hell I’d go so far as to say if you invite a ghoul like Mike Pence to speak at your convention, you obviously don’t give a shit about LBG issues at all, and are only using them as a shied so that no one can criticize your absolute inaction over the past 50 years on all social issues.

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      The point being made with their appearance is that Trump is so toxic and repulsive that defectors are actively coming out of the woodwork to endorse Harris. It’s meant to appeal to independents and Republicans who see modern Trump and are increasingly off-put by him.

      Now, they are all aggressively repulsive pieces of shit, sure. But I think we all agree that Trump is an even more aggressive piece of shit in comparison.

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        Appealing to right wing voters by adopting their policies never works.

        These ex-Republicans are not reaching other Republicans at the DNC. They are speaking to Democrats and selling them on their policies.

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        Participating in oppressor Olympics means you don’t actually hold any values.

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          The real world is nuanced and complicated sometimes. The enemy of my enemy is my friend works here.

          We at least need to be welcoming and accepting of defectors until we’ve beaten trump and reinforced our democracy so a threat like trump can’t happen again.

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          Refusing to participate in anything and just letting bad things happen means you don’t actually hold any values.

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            Refusing to participate in anything

            What are you saying? That First Past The Post voting disenfranchises a huge portion of the electorate by artificially limiting the number of viable political parties?

            The “totally supports democracy” democrats are probably all over correcting this issue in the states they control right?

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              Yup, FPTP is garbage, and the US is a dumpster fire third world country with a Gucci handbag.

              And yet, doing nothing can result in things getting even worse, so someone shouldn’t pretend to have some sort of moral superiority over doing nothing from stopping napalm being thrown on the fire because “it’s already burning anyway.”

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            So you support Genocide. Good to know, now just be honest with yourself.

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              “sitting around doing nothing does not make you morally superior”

              “So you support genocide”

              Well you sure sound like a rational person with reasonable arguments worth listening to…

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                Who said anything about doing nothing? There is a large amount you can do beside supporting genocide “because the world is complex”, and doing nothing. One of those things is not voting for the parties that support genocide as a bare minimum.

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      Not the correct attitude. This is an all-hands on deck fight against the fourth reich. Even people who suck for the reasons you correctly list are willing to point out that trump sucks. I don’t care if they were republican traitors yesterday if they figured their shit out and are getting the water out of the boat alongside us now.

      If the boat gets repaired and stable again, then we can afford to only have less dangerous allies.

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        This is an all-hands on deck fight against the fourth reich

        Agreed, which is why you must oppose genocide.

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          I agree with you that the Gaza genocide needs to be addressed immediately and with decisive action, and its deeply disheartening that it might not come unil November, but I do believe it is coming. This kind of human suffering cant be so easily ignored, I find it hard to believe that a Harris presidency would stand idle.

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        This is an all-hands on deck fight against the fourth reich

        Sounds serious! So when will the democratic party drop gun control considering this imminent threat?

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    As you can see, if conservatives were not chained to the Republican party by First Past the Post voting, they could at least have a chance to elect a more moderate conservative party.

    like the democrats with a new name.

    Give your fellow citizens the freedom to vote outside the two party system by supporting an electoral reform movement in your state.

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    Of course fox didn’t cover them, fox is too busy glazin that weird, geriatric fucking idiot.

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    I got kicked out from Radio, Television, and Film school for poor grades, poor attendance, and a number of other poor choices, so I really don’t know what I’m talking about when I ask this question:

    Doesn’t that violate the Equal Time Rule?

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      Doesn’t that violate the Equal Time Rule?

      not at all, nor should that rule even exist. It’s always been a bunch of bullshit pushed by conservatives to normalize their positions.

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        But without fairness and balance, how are the masses supposed to think unpopular ideas have significant support???

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      According to this FCC fact sheet:

      Equal opportunities and other political-related benefits are available only to individuals who have attained the status of “legally qualified candidate.” These rules do not apply to cable channels or web-based video or audio such as streamed video content, podcasts, or social media.

      And since Fox News is a cable channel, it does not apply

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        I’m almost positive that Fox isn’t cable… It’s broadcast and carried by cable companies because they’re required to do so by the FCC

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            Oh my god!

            The upside to this is that I’ve proven my honesty about getting kicked out of film school

            I have to admit, I love being wrong because it means that I learned something new. Thanks and thank you for your incredibly gentle response.

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      Probably not, since they did cover a presidential candidate and other speakers are not the ones running.