I feel like this instance is getting too big and all the content is being centralized here. Am I right or there are other instances thriving too?

Wherever I go I keep seeing lots of lemmy.world users and communities and kind of feel worried about centralization.

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    I don’t think anyone can tell where we’re going. Mastodon.social was the largest instance by far for some time, then at the deluge, it splintered.

    Part of the reason for Mastodon to fracture is specialization - each instance does something unique. Maybe Lemmy will do the same, maybe not.

    But if we end up with 3 primary instances, it’s still decentralized - I think the most useful feature of Lemmy isn’t that we’re spread out, it’s that we could be.

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      I think this highlights a very good point. It’s totally ok for everything to gravitate to a central instance as long as that instance is run in a way that everyone is happy with. The key is the the moment something changes and users aren’t happy, the decentralised nature of Lemmy gives those users an exit strategy - a way to replace the bad instance and carry on.

      If a single Lemmy instance becomes the new Reddit and then pulls a move that angers the community the way Reddit has recently, users wouldn’t be reduced to protests and hoping that management listen, they could just spin up new instances, mirror the content, and carry on like nothing happened.

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        The big, bad instance could just disable federation and all communities and user accounts would be locked on that instance.

        There’s a ton of other messengers and there’s WhatsApp but as long as my family doesn’t move from WhatsApp I’m stuck with it.

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      That’s the thing, I don’t want one instance with too much control over others. That is a gateway to reintroducing corporate corruption into the Fediverse

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          Heh, never been into Star Trek but I love how you guys have a Lemmy instance themed around it

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            TBH, I think the Startrek Community has the right idea.

            I believe Lemmy instances should treat themselves like ye olde message boards. Have a specific interest and accommodate it. So a Star Wars instance, a Marvel Instance, a DIY instance etc… They should act like message boards, but with the key advantage of linking up with the greater federation.

            Things like geography aren’t very conducive to finding content you’re interested in.

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      Yes this, and I could totally see the startrek instance growing into a hub for sci-fi related communities for example. More important than whether we are spread out is that the possibility and capability we have to spread out or migrate instances keeps instances in check by ensuring they don’t have leverage or lock-in over the communities. Currently I think the main risk is communities living on 1 instance, but better instance migration tools would mostly mitigate that - imagine if you could migrate a community (which in underlying activitypub terms is very similar to a user account) to a different instance, the same way mastodon accounts can migrate between instances and keep followers.

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      Yeah a lot of Lemmy instances right now are mostly based on country or language, so.tnrte is some making use of the decentralisation. I’m hoping an art instance would pop up, then I might migrate.

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        An art instance is a brave move. Lemmy takes up a lot of disk space already, but encouraging images means a lot more disk space. Lemmy also allows multiple images per post.