Been seeing a lot about how the government passes shitty laws, lot of mass shootings and expensive asf health care. I come from a developing nation and we were always told how America is great and whatnot. Are all states is America bad ?

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    You skipped over the whole 50% of the population lost the constitutional right to control their own body.

    You skipped over a lot of stuff.

    America is pretty bad, and we’ll never get better if everyone keeps insisting we’re not that bad.

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        I mean, case in point: someone replied to my comment apparently not knowing abortion is banned in places in America. I don’t even understand how that’s possible it was everywhere on the news for months.

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      See, this just isn’t true. There are a number of states that have the right to abortion enshrined in their constitution. Others are voting to have it added to their constitutions. Just because it was removed nationally, doesn’t mean everyone lost that right.

      Granted, it is absolutely a tragedy what is going on in the more backwards states. But things like this make it sound worse than the situation is nationwide. This is the issue the OP has. If you only see the negatives that are reported in the news, it sounds like the US is an absolute hellhole, which is not most people’s lived experience.

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        It is true that 50% of the population lost this constitutional right.

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            Dude you’re not going to get through this with shitty wordplay. They did in fact lose a US constitutional right. This isn’t a debatable statement, it is a fact.

            What is your end game here?

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              The point is that people’s QOL is highly dependent on where in the US they live. Local laws have a much bigger impact to people’s quality of life than whatever happens in Washington. I did not lose my constitutional rights to an abortion because I live in a sane place. If I live somewhere like Texas, I would have.

              The reason the rest of the world thinks the US is so terrible is that we act like the whole country is impacted the same way by national decisions. Or that all idiotic local laws apply to everyone the same way.

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                The whole country is impacted when rights are stripped from anyone. Look at what you’re saying: If some people are living a good life then it can’t be all that bad. Well, Elon Musk is living a pretty swell life so it doesn’t matter how many homeless people die in the street from hunger tonight, right? I know it’s kind of jumping the shark, but your rationale would call America “not that bad” if slavery were still allowed nationally but forbidden, in some states, right?

                We should be judged by what those that have allow to happen to those that have not. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture.

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                  I never said that we should let people suffer. You’re the one who needs to take a step back and stop raging.

                  OPs question is literally: “Are all states in the US that bad.” The answer is no, some states are obviously worse than others. It’s the shitty ones that get all the air time.

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      You can’t lose a human right. Their right to bodily autonomy is being infringed upon, but they still have it, no matter what the government says.

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        I appreciate what you mean but the idea that human rights aren’t granted is just a philosophy, not something that actually matches reality.

        That is to say, whether I agree with your premise or not doesn’t change reality at all.

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      Do you think we should switch to the abortion laws that most european countries have?

      Do you know they are typically stricter than what we have here?