People complaining about the bot are worse than the bot itself. Every comment thread or post about it (probably including this one) inevitably turns into people debating the bot’s usefulness.
If you’re someone who hates the bot, do what everyone has already said 10 trillion times: block it.
All the comment threads and posts by users wanting to “take it down” solve nothing. Just stop. It’s so irritating having to scroll past millions of comments of the same tired debate.
I’m always amused at the downvotes it collects. People hammering a button to acknowledge their dislike of something they are choosing to not block.
My only problem with these bots is that I don’t want them counted toward comments - I hate going in to find the only comments are bots.
My only problem with these bots is that I don’t want them counted toward comments - I hate going in to find the only comments are bots.
Agreed.
Blocking it does not stop it’s misinformation. I’m not opposed to bots or it’s layout in a comment. I’m opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.
What is your evidence it is a blatantly biased source?
Their own site. First of all, political scientists don’t use “left center” and “right center.” Because that puts a loaded word first and effectively erases anything after it. Leaving only left and right.
Second their left/right scheme puts objective facts based reporting in the “left center” category. Organizations like NYT, BBC, WAPO, etc. and in “right center” they’re sneaking in libertarian organizations that want to destroy the federal government and empower corporations in its place. Which gives them credibility they don’t deserve while conveniently painting objective reporting as left wing. They even rated a GOP campaign organization as “right center”. It’s literal political advertisement.
Third, their credibility ratings are highly subjective and rely on cherry picked evidence. For example NYT and Guardian have similar numbers of failed fact checks. But NYT gets highly credible while Guardian gets mixed. The same level as Breitbart; who has double the number of failed fact checks.
Really the more you actually check, the worse it gets.
Blocking it does not stop it’s misinformation. I’m not opposed to bots or it’s layout in a comment. I’m opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.
The irony of a comment reviewing the bias of some article is that someone else will always claim that the review is also biased. It’s inevitable and unavoidable.
You can avoid that by at least being internally consistent though.
No, I don’t think you can.
So you’re smart enough to realize it’s “blatantly biased” but others aren’t so we need to get rid of it?
It’s kind of like Lemmy users don’t understand that this is a decentralized platform where you can connect to it and do whatever you want. The whole point is for it to not be regulated by any one entity.
The way you can “take it down” is by building a better instance (or sponsoring someone else to), maintain/manage it, etc. It’s strange to me that you expect your instance operator and/or the platform at large to implement blocking a specific bot just for you, especially when your account is basically on the default “how to use Lemmy” instance.
So we shouldn’t fight misinformation? We should just cede that space to whoever shows up with a bot?
No thank you.
So I’m no expert on the bot but it seems like the hard right crowd are the ones crying about it being misinformation.
You’re on a federated, P2P (as far as instances go) platform not expecting to find misinformation from a bot; meanwhile you got all sorts of “user” accounts posting fake propaganda every other post and real humans with equally problematic opinions but for some reason the bot that might be inaccurate (maybe because it’s a BOT) seems to be the breaking point.
I’ve said my piece, I’m not really so interested in this topic to keep drilling down endlessly. The whole thing is fucking stupid.
it seems like the hard right crowd are the ones crying about it being misinformation.
Hahahahaha no.
And I call out those posters when I see it too.
I’m surprised we haven’t seen an alternative news community on another instance than Lemmyworld and lemmy.ml emerge as an alternative without such bot.
Seems like the LW mods/admins don’t want to change their opinion on the bot, so the expected reaction would be to see people leave those communities for others.
People just like complaining. They honestly just have too much free time
Sounds reasonable
Just remembered there is !globalnews@lemmy.zip
Just block it.
I did but that doesnt remove the comment counter for the bots comment from the post feed. So i think there is something to engage with but nope, just the shitty bot that serves no actual purpose to begin with. Nobody double checks and audits the bot so its completely worthless.
Sounds like your day is ruined
Blocking it does not stop it’s misinformation. I’m not opposed to bots or it’s layout in a comment. I’m opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.
Bruh please dont copy and paste the comment everywhere.
Are you operating three accounts?
Can we get the same answer you gave last time, but in bold this time?
Seriously, you made your point, you don’t have to make it to every person you disagree with.
If I want to have the same conversation with ten different people that’s my problem. I’m not going to find ten different ways to say the same thing. If you want to avoid this then people shouldn’t make top level comments that have the same message either. It’s pretty hypocritical to say they’re allowed to do that but I’m not allowed to respond to them in separate threads.
Blocking it does not stop it’s misinformation. I’m not opposed to bots or it’s layout in a comment. I’m opposed to having a blatantly biased source masquerading as an unbiased gatekeeper of credibility. You cannot block that.
…excuse me, i don’t know where that came from…!
I have never ever even seen that bot.
It’s in the news communities on Lemmy.world
I don’t use the comms where this bot pops up (for unrelated reasons) so I’ll comment the following as an external observer.
May I be honest? I think that both sides are being muppets.
People defending that bot are mostly saying two things:
- “jus hide all botz in u’re profile lol lmao” - asking people to throw the baby out with the dirty bathtub water, given that plenty other bots are desirable;
- “if u dun liek it than
fuck offblock it lmao haha” - extremely short-sighted, as annoyances don’t happen only once, and if people need to block bots to make Lemmy usable they’ll simply leave.
You are not solving the problem, you’re just knee-jerk reacting to the other side’s whining. I don’t need more than a quick glance at the bot’s profile to know that the bot is bloody hated by the users. This shite should be fixed or ditched, because as it stands it is not doing what a bot is supposed to do, to provide desirable functionality to the users.
People complaining about that bot: the group above might be knee-jerk reacting to your whining, but you’re still regardless whining, like a herd of redditors and unlike decent people. If it’s clear that your complains are falling into deaf ears, pack up your things and leave, nurture competing communities without that bloody bot.
I like the bot but never upvote it because it’s a bot…
I think that this goes for both sides - there should be plenty people like you, who like it and don’t upvote it, as well as plenty more people who dislike it but aren’t downvoting it.
(I typically vote on bot content because it’s useful as feedback for the maintainer, as well as helping with post/comment sorting.)
You are the same type of person who still thinks Helldivers 2 is fun
TF kind of argument is that lmao
How does that matter at all to anyone but yourself
. . I still like it . .
I’m not a gamer, I’d rather build something.
Then you’re missing out.
You can do both. Sometimes at the same time!
And most likely without some kind of smug sense of superiority over helldivers 2 players of all things like the other guy.
Sorry if my shortened comment felt smug to you. I originally starting explaining that while gaming I oftentimes get frustrated and want to reprogram the game rather than play it, but I was distracted so I shortened it quickly. No offense intended.
Oh no, I meant the other guy saying “you’re one of those people who enjoys helldivers 2” in a way that’s clear he’s trying to say it sucks and he’s better than that.
You didn’t come off as smug.
Well my comprehension skills are all over the place today, haha
No worries, text doesn’t convey tone well and I could see how my comment might seem like I was calling YOU smug for not taking interest in something.
Well shit, and i was so committed to the downvote i left on your last comment. Gotta go fix that, i guess…
…hope you’re happy.
