Biden’s voice was strong and clear, and the crowd was far warmer to him as an outgoing president

  • HoustonHenry@lemmy.world
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    At least he didn’t offer to do away with voting, call POWs and veterans names, be the adulterer in all 3 marriages, and generally doent understand democracy (much less democratic processes). When you measure the two against eachother, I’d think you might start actually giving a fuck

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      Yeah and just look at the type of people Biden’s administration has compared to the complete clowns in Trump’s administration.

      His broader cabinet is really who is keeping the country going. Similarly with Trump, his cabinet is what did much of the damage to this country.

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      Biden was always a shit candidate which is why it’s incredibly fortunate that we have a much better one now. Harris isn’t the best possible choice but she’s certainly the best one we’ve actually been given. Trump is almost literally the worst presidential candidate in the history of the US. Trump was the worst president in the history of the US. It might be possible to come up with someone worse than Trump (I’m certainly not going to challenge Republicans to do so they certainly would), but I’m having trouble thinking of one (maybe Elon Musk).

      Just because the other option is literally the worst possible option doesn’t mean we have to pretend that the better option is some kind of perfect saint. Everyone needs to go vote for Harris and for literally anyone but Republicans in this upcoming election, but we also aren’t obligated to claim sun shines out of her ass and certainly not act like Biden whose not even running anymore doesn’t have anything wrong with him.

      Our country has turned into a gerontocracy and it’s well past the point we should do something about that. We should be pushing for age limits on all elected positions. We have an age of retirement, we should enforce that on political (and maybe judicial) offices as well.

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      3 months ago

      Are we still fighting this battle? Yeah Trump is a POS, we found that out decades ago. His political campaign started with Mexicans are rapists and grab them by the pussy and went downhill from there. We know. We watched 24 hour coverage of it for 8 years

      Can we stop using that to shield other things from criticism? Biden isn’t even the candidate anymore, it’s ok if Biden doesn’t win the election. It’s ok to criticize “the good guys” when they do bad shit.

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      3 months ago

      start actually giving a fuck

      I see what you did there 👏

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      3 months ago

      Biden isn’t running anymore. You no longer need to pretend that anyone who says anything bad about him is a Trump supporter.

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      Bruh. If your only standard is “not as bad as republicans are right now”…

      And republicans constantly get worse…

      Dont you understand how trying our standards to them results in everyone’s standards nosediving and the country burning in the wreckage?

      When you measure the two against eachother, I’d think you might start actually giving a fuck

      Start thinking more than 2 weeks ahead, and you might be surprised that you agree we should have higher standards than not trump.

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        So, holding people to actual standards is a bad thing because Republicans are a lost cause? Is that what you’re really saying?

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          No, I think he’s arguing for the exact opposite. Just because Republicans are terrible doesn’t mean Democrats are immune to criticism (not that you’d know it from this thread, apparently saying Biden is too old to hold office is the worst thing ever).

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            I’m glad he’s not running anymore. We stand a chance now. Still wish he would stop enabling genocide. If we live long enough in spite of the pitifully inadequate response to the climate crisis, centrists are gonna look like moral cowards in the documentaries. Yet again.