• Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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      1 year ago

      While I don’t doubt for a moment that LTT fan base is likely filled to the brim with fanatics… I don’t want to completely go all in on that story as much as the Madison story. That kid’s youtube channel has a dubious history on it’s own. It appears that the channel was purchased with all the subs that it had, not actually grown. I don’t necessarily believe that they “deserved” the play button if they bought subs. Not to say they deserved to be harassed, but you can’t expect not to be if you do things in a really shady way.

      I could be wrong… I dunno. But I’d encourage a little more research before accepting this story.

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          1 year ago

          Correct, but I can’t blame LTT for that. That’s the raving zealot LTT fanbase.

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            No, but you did suggest you should expect this level of abuse for the “shady” act of buying subs and buying a YouTube button someone else feels they’re entitled to.

            Ultimately if a group of people whose unifying property is you and they’re hounding a child in your name you are absolutely responsible for doing everything in your power to stop them abusing that child.

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              Not to say they deserved to be harassed, but you can’t expect not to be if you do things in a really shady way.

              Is what I said. As in I don’t believe that they should have been harassed, but the internet being the internet… we know that’s what happens when people do shady shit like that.

              Linus can’t control idiots that just watch his videos. He was on record as “don’t bother this person” in several places. And I’ve not seen any case where Linus “sent” people to harass this kid. So yes… even if the group is ultimately unified by Linus… I can’t necessarily blame him.

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        I completely agree.

        Yes, it’s sad tans messed up that LTT fans drove the kid to suicide. But if it is true that the YouTube channel wasn’t one that legitimately got subscribers then too bad. The self entitlement to feel you should have gotten a silver plaque for not being talented is insane. If you do something shady you deserve to face consequences…getting harrassed? No. Getting called out? Absolutely

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      1 year ago

      Is there more to this than just a reddit screenshot posted on what’s clearly a clickbait shithole of a website?

      I remember seeing the video of the play button, and kind of expected the guy to get a lot of hate. It resulting in harassment and suicide wouldn’t surprise me considering how Youtube people are. However, I’m not going to accept such a wild story without some credible evidence, especially since this is also the type of hoax internet losers would make up for clout.

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        1 year ago

        Can someone explain to me followers and the seemingly weird cult that forms. LTT, Sony, Microsoft, Apple etc. Why are people weirdly defensive of these companies and ignore evidence, death threats etc?

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          1 year ago

          Same as with politics.

          People make something stupid (and usually toxic) the center of their identity, and develop a parasocial obsession with it due to having nothing going on in their own lives and want to latch onto someone elses success… especially if that someone else displays the same unhealthy/bad traits that they personally have and identify with, to the point that any threat to, or criticism against, their idol, is seen as the most egregious of personal attacks on them as a person. So they strike out as if they’ve been personally done the worst wrong imaginable.

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          We like to think we’re evolved, but ultimately we’re still tribal creatures. It’s just that the tribes are a bit wider these days.

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          I forget the name of the bias/fallacy, but it’s something like “I love and support X. If X is bad, then I support something bad, then I’m bad. Since I’m a good person, and I support X, then X must be good or I wouldn’t support them”

          It’s probably a quirk of how we make decisions - we don’t consciously make decisions. Instead, we might weigh out the options and that affects our choice, but in the moment we choose subconsciously. It might feel like we made a decision consciously, but sometimes at the last second we deviate from the course we chose (or upon choosing, realize that despite our thoughts we actually have already made up our mind otherwise)… Then we have to rationalize that choice, or start down a long and challenging road of constant introspection

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      Theres nothing to indicate those people were “his fanbase”, and he actively condemned anyone who did that. What is it exactly that you expected him to do about that?

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        Be more careful when putting things like that in videos. He’s said many times not to go attacking people he talks about, but he should know the minority of his fan base won’t listen, and he should just not mention it instead.

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          Things like what? It was a completely innocuous (and boring) exchange that people blew out of proportion.

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      1 year ago

      Makes sense. All these toxic people unsubbing before hearing both sides. Very toxic community indeed.

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        You are the worst fanboy

        I never noticed you until today and every single one of your comments is just fanboy defends his idol against anything and everything.

        You are an excellent example of the problem.