• VARXBLE@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    This is a bad argument, and you know it was. Referring to a group who identify with political beliefs, at their own discretion, as that group, is not the same as “othering” based on ethnic or sexual traits that are predetermined. No where close.

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      3 months ago

      I do not agree. I feel like it’s plain and simple. Thinking can be changed, but ethnicity can’t. Yet even though the possibility exists to reform them, we blame them for being “different” somehow rather than trying to understand and change their position.

      I have defended my statement enough. If some of you want to argue that hating conservatives is justified, and even if they try to reform they’re still doing it for selfish reasons, then I have nothing to say to you.

      • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        I do not agree. I feel like it’s plain and simple. Thinking can be changed, but ethnicity can’t. Yet even though the possibility exists to reform them, we blame them for being “different” somehow rather than trying to understand and change their position.

        you can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. they are getting their beliefs from their religious authority; how are any of us supposed to compete with that?

        I have defended my statement enough. If some of you want to argue that hating conservatives is justified, and even if they try to reform they’re still doing it for selfish reasons, then I have nothing to say to you.

        what else do you call it when your mind only changes on a topic when it directly involves people close to you?