It’s preposterous that the flag of the most destructive proponent of western (mostly US) hegemony and imperialism is placed right there beside a pride flag with a peace sign!

Let’s use out combined power to stamp out this murderous, civilian-bombing and subjugating stain from the canvas (by extending the prideflag over it)!

https://canvas.fediverse.events/#x=272&y=106&zoom=5

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    I really can’t see how anyone considering themselves a Leftist could support NATO, let alone stan it to the point of personally identifying with it. Like, you don’t in any way need to be a Marxist-Leninist, Anarchists hate NATO too. All it requires is an understanding of the historical role of NATO and opposition to the furthest reaches of Capitalism that form the primary contradiction of the modern era.

    The folks over on NCD that stan NATO are an interesting bunch, it starts with a nerdy interest in military gear and history, and turns into outright fascism very quickly.

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      4 months ago

      Any progressive should be against imperialism and imo it is a “mask off” moment which rly helps distinguishing between well meaning progressive libs and neoliberal posers

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        Agreed. I don’t fault libs for not reading Lenin, but again, you don’t need Lenin to understand the negative role NATO has played historically. Even well-intentioned non-Marxist, non-Anarchist liberals can deduce that NATO is the largest Imperialist military alliance in history.

        To not only not recognize this, but to further support NATO, shows where your stances really reside.

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          Even well-intentioned non-Marxist, non-Anarchist liberals can deduce that NATO is the largest Imperialist military alliance in history.

          Yes they can and do… and that’s why liberals love NATO.

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          So what’s the alternative to combatting Russian and Chinese imperialism as a western-born leftist?

          How would/should an organised socialist military industrial complex shake out and not also be labeled imperialist? As someone who hasn’t read Lenin, what is the solution to creating a society we dream of without the “big stick” that is NATO?