• bentropy@feddit.de
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      You could have just said “rich people” to include all the shady ultra rich fuckers from all around the world. This isn’t a gender, race, culture or religion problem, it’s a class problem.

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        I don’t think that’s entirely true. Yes, it’s a class problem, but race and gender are intertwined with class in advanced capitalist countries. When white men fail, they’re daring and courageous and bold for trying risky things. When it’s anyone else they’re stupid beneficiaries of nepotism - nepotism that’s bestowed onto them by other white men.

        You need to advance your class analysis beyond just income. The reproduction of labor and racial colonization and imperialist superexploitation complicate the relations to the means of production beyond haves and havenots.

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          Don’t you think the same stuff goes on in Arab, Asian, African, South American countries? It’s not all about white men, it’s a class issue.

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            Right, but in America, race and class are intertwined. Look at how they treat black tax evaders vs white tax evaders. Wesley Snipes spent 3 years in prison. Ja Rule got 28 months in prison. Lauryn Hill got 3 months. H Ty Warner got 0 jail time. Nicolas Cage at one point owed $14 million to the IRS and he’s never even been charged.

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            Sure, and then when a rich white man shows up from a rich white country he suddenly outranks them - and if they don’t respect the white man, the West will wage economic war on them through sanctions and blockades and diplomatic aggression.

            Race can be complicated, sure, but there’s a hierarchy and it always stems back to the white man because white men colonized the world.

            That’s why decolonization and anti-imperialism are essential pillars of anti-capitalism, and that’s why anti-whiteness is revolutionary.

            Whiteness has to be abolished. It’s not real. It’s just a tool of supremacy and suppression.

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              I hope you go to a middle eastern country and spout the bullshit. I’d literally laugh as your head fell off your body.

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                  I think they… frown… on the idea that they are lesser than white people. Please please please go tell a rich Saudi the same thing you said about a white man showing up and being in charge of them I so want you to do that.

                  The underlying point to all this being you have a very myopic and biased understanding of the world. And i think people like you should not be allowed.

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          Could it be for once useful not to be completely divided? Sure, rich people use and have used race, sex and so on to gain and maintain power but rich people are also composed, even if not homogeneously distributed, of different races, genders and so on.

          Pointing fingers at rich white man helps in the same way as point fingers at rich Jews. It helps nothing but hiding the valid criticism of the out of control system we live in behind a hateful division of society.

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      Will repeat a point I made in another comment.

      Bernie Madoff did end up in jail. But it wasn’t the large amount of stolen money.

      It was because he made the mistake of robbing other rich assholes.