I really fucking hope the current administration is taking it seriously.
Like, despite the optics of it, if trump has any kind of advertised gathering anywhere near DC, NYC, or other densely populated important place that could be a target…
We need the National Guard out in full kit. Not just day of, posted up in advanced with fences and people in elevated positions.
This shit isn’t a game, even hitler failed his first attempt and had to try twice. Germany didn’t take the threat seriously and we aren’t really either.
Instead everyone wants to act like smug assholes.
Too many people live such privileged lives that they really forgot at the end of the day what is allowed to happen is just what the people in a close distance most capable of violence in the moment want to happen
There’s is a giant gulf in “what can they do?” between “what are they legally allowed to do” and “what they can do before anyone physically stops them”.
So if trump is going to hold a large rally in DC or NYC, then when we need to make sure there are a lot of law abiding military members with the equipment and capabilities to commit violence in the same area.
This ain’t some shit where we can just throw a couple cops in right gear out front and call it a day.
There’s literally been corrupt sheriff’s caught ordering military hardware like a 50cal machine gun designed to be fitted on a helicopter…
Then selling it to militias.
This shit tends to get real, really fucking quickly historically.
There’s literally been corrupt sheriff’s caught ordering military hardware like a 50cal machine gun designed to be fitted on a helicopter…
I think this is (a particularly stark example of) the core problem here. The people who are supposed to be the ones protecting the rest of us from these right wing nutjobs are, well…right wing nutjobs.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I’ve seen a number of articles over the years that claim the FBI takes domestic terrorism very seriously, and is always actively investigating them. There have been some arrests, too. Is it enough? I seriously doubt it. But it’s not being ignored.
Freedom of speech (and a general “preference” for white people and conservatives among law enforcement) makes it slower-moving than I personally would prefer. But I have to hang on to a sliver of hope that more of these assholes will soon be arrested.
And while their side thinks they have “all the guns” they really don’t. They just walk around with them in public like psychos and dipshits. Our side has guns, too.
claim the FBI takes domestic terrorism very seriously, and is always actively investigating them.
There’s not much they can do till a line is crossed, like we know about the machine gun sale because the FBI got them.
But not till after the militia had the machine gun for months and lots of other military hardware has been sold to them.
And remember, this is America, legal firearms can already be very effective and not far off than what the military uses. Hell, if you’re really doing it credit card debt ain’t an issue and you can be kitted out better than a US infantry soldier fairly easily.
Full auto is the only real difference, and isn’t always a big deal, and you can (again, physically able to, not legally able to) easily convert ARs and Glocks into full auto or burst fire.
And while their side thinks they have “all the guns” they really don’t. They just walk around with them in public like psychos and dipshits. Our side has guns, too.
Again, this ain’t about long term.
They’re not the only ones with guns, they’re not the only ones with body armor, and they’re probably not even the majority of people with Glizzys.
But if 100 of them show up ready to go, with 5,000 idiots blocking traffic and response time again. Then we need the actual military already there and dug in ahead of time, not a fucking prolonged civil war between groups of civilians.
Does it matter if foot soldiers eventually get arrested after they carry out executions?
The executions still happened, and the people who bankrolled that group are likely bankrolling others and we’ve seen how slow our justice system moves.
The people coordinating 1/6 are literally still out there running around outside of jail. There’s a lot more right wing militia groups out there who would have already tried to overthrow the US government if they had the funds for equipment and the opportunity.
trump doesn’t give two fucks about them, just if they’ll do what he wants.
Holding people accountable after shit on this level is obviously important, but even more is stopping them before they do what they’re trying to.
With people like this, that means an overwhelming show of force, because if they think they’re the most capable of violence in the moment, they’re gonna use it.
A Glock specifically modified with a “switch” to be fully automatic.
5 in the his case, but yeah it was a poor choice and I should have said “full auto” instead of even just “switch” would have been better.
My point was full auto Glock conversions are cheap and all over major cities. It is insanely easy to buy one online or make it with a 3d printer. And while it’s popular with gangs and drug dealers, it’s wildly impractical.
A pistol, and/or one with an oversized magazine that is so long, it protrudes out of the bottom of the pistol’s normal grip.
The Glock 33 round magazine is the archetype because it’s so large and obnoxious, but it applies to any magazine that has an extension to make it hold more shots
Agreed, and it’s not like they’d need a ‘clean sweep’ either. The fait accompli may be loudly derided by the ‘clean’ fashy actors in office, but that immediately changes the play on the field if an IED or lucky gunman murders a justices or a few senators, and now there’s a void.
Look at how they dragged out RBGs replacement until the next election, or that traitor prick Tuberville filibustered DoD leadership confirmations for months. They may not order the goons around but they know their role in the conspiracy
I really fucking hope the current administration is taking it seriously.
Like, despite the optics of it, if trump has any kind of advertised gathering anywhere near DC, NYC, or other densely populated important place that could be a target…
We need the National Guard out in full kit. Not just day of, posted up in advanced with fences and people in elevated positions.
This shit isn’t a game, even hitler failed his first attempt and had to try twice. Germany didn’t take the threat seriously and we aren’t really either.
Instead everyone wants to act like smug assholes.
Too many people live such privileged lives that they really forgot at the end of the day what is allowed to happen is just what the people in a close distance most capable of violence in the moment want to happen
There’s is a giant gulf in “what can they do?” between “what are they legally allowed to do” and “what they can do before anyone physically stops them”.
So if trump is going to hold a large rally in DC or NYC, then when we need to make sure there are a lot of law abiding military members with the equipment and capabilities to commit violence in the same area.
This ain’t some shit where we can just throw a couple cops in right gear out front and call it a day.
There’s literally been corrupt sheriff’s caught ordering military hardware like a 50cal machine gun designed to be fitted on a helicopter…
Then selling it to militias.
This shit tends to get real, really fucking quickly historically.
I think this is (a particularly stark example of) the core problem here. The people who are supposed to be the ones protecting the rest of us from these right wing nutjobs are, well…right wing nutjobs.
We have a nazi problem in law enforcement and that should concern everyone.
And KKK. The FBI has confirmed this.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I’ve seen a number of articles over the years that claim the FBI takes domestic terrorism very seriously, and is always actively investigating them. There have been some arrests, too. Is it enough? I seriously doubt it. But it’s not being ignored.
Freedom of speech (and a general “preference” for white people and conservatives among law enforcement) makes it slower-moving than I personally would prefer. But I have to hang on to a sliver of hope that more of these assholes will soon be arrested.
And while their side thinks they have “all the guns” they really don’t. They just walk around with them in public like psychos and dipshits. Our side has guns, too.
There’s not much they can do till a line is crossed, like we know about the machine gun sale because the FBI got them.
But not till after the militia had the machine gun for months and lots of other military hardware has been sold to them.
And remember, this is America, legal firearms can already be very effective and not far off than what the military uses. Hell, if you’re really doing it credit card debt ain’t an issue and you can be kitted out better than a US infantry soldier fairly easily.
Full auto is the only real difference, and isn’t always a big deal, and you can (again, physically able to, not legally able to) easily convert ARs and Glocks into full auto or burst fire.
Again, this ain’t about long term.
They’re not the only ones with guns, they’re not the only ones with body armor, and they’re probably not even the majority of people with Glizzys.
But if 100 of them show up ready to go, with 5,000 idiots blocking traffic and response time again. Then we need the actual military already there and dug in ahead of time, not a fucking prolonged civil war between groups of civilians.
Does it matter if foot soldiers eventually get arrested after they carry out executions?
The executions still happened, and the people who bankrolled that group are likely bankrolling others and we’ve seen how slow our justice system moves.
The people coordinating 1/6 are literally still out there running around outside of jail. There’s a lot more right wing militia groups out there who would have already tried to overthrow the US government if they had the funds for equipment and the opportunity.
trump doesn’t give two fucks about them, just if they’ll do what he wants.
Holding people accountable after shit on this level is obviously important, but even more is stopping them before they do what they’re trying to.
With people like this, that means an overwhelming show of force, because if they think they’re the most capable of violence in the moment, they’re gonna use it.
So it needs to be very clear they’re outgunned.
What is a glizzy in this context, I only know of the hotdog?
A glizzy could be:
A penis
A hotdog
A Glock
Anytime of handgun
A Glock specifically modified with a “switch” to be fully automatic.
5 in the his case, but yeah it was a poor choice and I should have said “full auto” instead of even just “switch” would have been better.
My point was full auto Glock conversions are cheap and all over major cities. It is insanely easy to buy one online or make it with a 3d printer. And while it’s popular with gangs and drug dealers, it’s wildly impractical.
A pistol, and/or one with an oversized magazine that is so long, it protrudes out of the bottom of the pistol’s normal grip.
The Glock 33 round magazine is the archetype because it’s so large and obnoxious, but it applies to any magazine that has an extension to make it hold more shots
Agreed, and it’s not like they’d need a ‘clean sweep’ either. The fait accompli may be loudly derided by the ‘clean’ fashy actors in office, but that immediately changes the play on the field if an IED or lucky gunman murders a justices or a few senators, and now there’s a void.
Look at how they dragged out RBGs replacement until the next election, or that traitor prick Tuberville filibustered DoD leadership confirmations for months. They may not order the goons around but they know their role in the conspiracy
No, they’re too busy with snipers at student protests.
Yup. And the default reaction of the masses is to adjust, which allows extremists quite a lot of rope to move things in their desired direction
On 1/5 everyone said it would never ever happen.
And by 1/7 they were fully confident it will never happen again and the matter had been settled.