• cenarius871@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Industrialization does not magically happen. There need to be active policies done to make it happen like tariffs on manufactured goods or state ownership or subsidies for manufacturing etc. . Those policies have not been done enough in todays 3rd world countries and they were done in russia and china when they were backward and they went from backward countries to industrialized countries while having low wealth and income inequality.

      Edit: Yes it proves your point but also my point.

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        no, the industrialization didn’t depend on the type of governing body; only resources, opportunities, and localized wealth.

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          and russia and china didnt have this(only resources, opportunities, and localized wealth.) until the communist parties came to power?

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            they had this before and during communist parties. They had all 3, but opportunity and resources are time variables which was more governed (pun intended) by the rapid spread of industrialism itself.

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              why did it spread to south korea only in 1960? and not earlier? Why has it still not spread to africa and india today?

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                I think there is a lot more going on in those regions than I can account for their lack of industrialism. short answer is I don’t know.

                longer response is the whole opportunities, resource triad thing can be broken by cultural and other barriers. let’s use Amish folks as that example.

                the Koreas had a slightly isolationist time during the broader revolutions and since have different outside influences so they have different periods of growth.

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        5 months ago

        adding to this line of thought:

        this is why some marxists idealized revolutionary socialism being conducted in already industrialized countries, not necessarily the undeveloped ones it ended up taking root in.