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It blows our hivemind that the United States doesn’t use the ISO 216 paper size standard (A4, A5 and the gang).

Like, we consider ourselves worldly people and are aware of America’s little idiosyncrasies like mass incarceration, the widespread availability of assault weapons and not being able to transfer money via your banking app, but come on - look how absolutely great it is to be European:

The American mind cannot comprehend this diagram

[Diagram of paper sizes as listed below]

ISO 216 A series papers formats

AO

A1

A3

A5

A7

A6

Et.

A4

Instead, Americans prostrate themselves to bizarrely-named paper types of seemingly random size: Letter, Legal, Tabloid (Ledger) and all other types of sordid nonsense. We’re not even going to include a picture because this is a family-friendly finance blog.

Source: Financial Times

  • MetaCubed@lemmy.world
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    Letter paper (8.5" x 11" | 215.9mm x 279.4mm) is kinda sorta pretty close to A4 (8.27" x 11.69" | 210mm x 297mm) so without having the two next to each other, it can seem like A4 is just a funny piece of letter, and vice versa. But to answer the actual question, USA and Canada (and apparently the phillipines???) use the “North American Standard” which is a terrifying mess in comparison to the beauty that is the ISO standard.

    Edit: typos

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        The US is a former British colony, but it doesn’t stop them from doing whatever the hell they want. Utter lunatics…

        I’m sorry, I still haven’t forgiven them for the whole tea thing…

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          America tried to modernise many British means of methods and standards. They used a metric currency long before Britain. That’s why they have a cent (1/100) rather than pennies and bobs and truppence.

          They got ride of many terms for multiples of measurements that made the imperial system more similar to metric. Americans use ounces, but they don’t use pounds.

          America also defines their us customary units using metric. There’s no longer an inch. There is a meter and from that an inch is defined as 24 millimeters. This is largely due to British, Canadian and American components for fighting wars not fitting together despite all using the same inch.

          Had America modernised a little later they probably would have converted to metric earlier than Britain.

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      Tbf, I can see the use case for some “non-standard” sizes, like Legal, where having more height to the page without the extra width might be useful for readability of long documents.

      …can’t think of an excuse for the rest, though.

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        That’s how it starts, you see the usefulness of one case, the next thing you know is you’re measuring distance in sheep and power in mice

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            And always fractional, so, to convert from Farenheit to Celsius (inferior to kelvin, though), you take farenheit, add 57 mice, and divide by a hamburger.

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        As a European, I do appreciate Legal as a format.

        It just happens slightly too often that an A4 is not long enough and the last bit, including the signature, goes to the next page.

        I wish Legal was common here. Or perhaps we could get a Long A4 with a third extra height or so.

        The Letter format should just be replaced by A4 though.

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      I think Mexico too, or at least the paper name is “carta” and “oficio” which would translate to letter and legal (kinda)