People without an inner voice have poorer verbal memory
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The vast majority of people have an ongoing conversation with themselves, an inner voice, that plays an important role in their daily lives. But between 5-10 per cent of the population do not have the same experience of an inner voice, and they find it more difficult to perform certain verbal memory tasks, new research shows.
  • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    6 months ago

    Yeah complete aphantasia is crazy.

    The point is that no-one does that sort of thinking with language, as it’s not really applicable.

    • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      6 months ago

      I was really confused when you said picture an object then flip it. When people say picture something I always assumed that was a way to say think about the thing. I guess because I can think about things, obviously, but I can’t picture them. Their wouldn’t be a thing for me to flip if someone asked me to picture an object which left me wondering, wtf do you mean flip it.

      • mrcleanup@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 months ago

        Picture a teapot. Picture it turning over so you can see the other side. Sort of like that.

        • Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          6 months ago

          I guess my point is that I can’t picture something in that way. Picturing a green apple vs a red apple. I don’t actually visualize anything. I can think ok it’s a sour apple or sweet apple but I don’t have a visual to modify. The teapot I would just be thinking ok the teapot is upside down, theirs nothing I can visualize that would change. I have tried really hard, especially when I miss loved ones, I wish I could bring about images of them in my mind really badly.

          • mrcleanup@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            6 months ago

            Faces are hard for me too, but not impossible. It’s like AI. It’s easy to get a “teapot” but it takes more work and focus to get a specific individual.

        • MeThisGuy@feddit.nlEnglish
          1·
          6 months ago

          guess the upside of it is is that if you see something traumatic you can’t revisualize it?

          some things can’t be unseen doesn’t apply for everyone? must be nice

          • mrcleanup@lemmy.worldEnglish
            11·
            6 months ago

            Maybe. One way to process trauma is to re-visit it until it becomes more familiar and less of an extreme experience. Seeing it in your mind may make it more real, but it also means you can just picture a teapot instead if you need to get away from it.

            • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              6 months ago

              Seeing it in your mind may make it more real, but it also means you can just picture a teapot instead if you need to get away from it.

              Thaaaaat’s not how trauma works. If you could just distract yourself, the trauma wouldn’t be nearly as much of an issue.

              The problem is being forced to relive a horrible memory despite your will or not.

              • mrcleanup@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                6 months ago

                I love how we are all here talking about how we all think and perceive differently and you decided it was important to tell me that the way I process trauma isn’t real. You can go ahead and fuck right off.

                • Dasus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  6 months ago

                  Nice reply man, super polite. You process trauma in whatever way best suits you, but… You’re making the claim that is essentially “if you’re bothered by traumatic memories, you can just stop thinking about them” which is reductive and simplistic as fuck, and above all very much objectively wrong.

                  People who are bothered by images from traumatic memories can’t just choose to “picture a teapot instead if you need to get away from it.” That’s. Not. How. Trauma. Works.

                  • mrcleanup@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    6 months ago

                    Hey, I don’t have to be polite to people who try to invalidate my life experience. Don’t tell me how I work.

                    Feel free to tell me how YOU work, but telling me that “it doesn’t work that way” when it obviously does for me doesn’t make your experience somehow universal.

                    Also, this is the Internet, if you can’t handle some people not being polite then I have bad news for you…

    • DriftinGrifter@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      i can imagine textures and tastes and stuff and geometry relatively complex but when i try to imagine colors all i get is a flat color diagram or an empty room with only one colour

    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      it’s wack, shits even weirder when you dream.

      My dreams often get retconned into the real world, unless my brain immediately determines them to be bullshit. Which is uh, unsettling.