• Ranvier@lemmy.world
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    Slight correction on that vaccine, the FDA doesn’t authorize any drug for sale in the US that hasn’t passed it’s rigorous trials and gone through its approval process. It’s currently being tested and has more trials ongoing right now. FDA will be able to approve it for sale if it passes its trials.

    https://ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JCO.2023.41.16_suppl.9135

    Also the word cancer vaccine kind of implies cure to some, but it’s not by any means:

    “MST was 10.83 months for vaccinated vs. 8.86 months for non-vaccinated. In the Phase III trial, the 5-year survival rate was 14.4% for vaccinated subjects vs. 7.9% for controls.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5346887/

    So it might be a useful tool but just don’t want to get hopes up unnecessarily. People who’s immune system reacted to the vaccine the strongest did best, so current trials are focused on combining it with an immune checkpoint inhibitor drug to increase the immune response even more hopefully (and those drugs are already being used by themselves in cancer). These drugs block “checkpoints” in the immune system that would normally stop it from attacking things like yourself, which we kind of want it to do in cancer.

    Not saying I support an embargo in Cuba, I don’t, just don’t want this comment to be inadvertently read as “Cuba has had the cure to lung cancer this whole time and you’re not allowed to have it!” which isn’t true.

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      Wow this comment really unwinds the one you replied to, so much so that the original seems in bad faith

      Edit op edited, and improved their comment. You don’t need to defend them, they are fine on their own

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          The incomplete characterization that the drug was READY for us markets.

          It is not fda approved.

          Edit After discussion, the op elected to make the seen edits in their comment. I’d refer you to them.

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            @astreus never made that claim.

            It is currently available in Cuba, Colombia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Peru and Paraguay.[

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              6 months ago

              This has already been discussed and op met my edit request. You aren’t part of this.

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                For the sake of transparency, I edited before you suggested I did - hence my comment “I had not done the research and have edited my comment above.” 😉

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                    Now who’s being disingenuous 😂

                    The implicature of cause and effect is reversed