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When I was a teenager and still on Neopets I was part of a pretty big Star Trek guild and eventually became part of its council, with the solemn duty of creating weekly polls. Well one day I created the poll “Which would win in a fight? Borg Cube or Death Star?”. Naturally, since this was a Star Trek guild, the answer was overwhelmingly “Borg Cube”, but someone did have the rationality to point out we were biased.
So I look up a pretty prominent Star Wars guild and message one of their council and ask them to poll the same question and get back to me in a week. They do, and naturally the fuckin geeks said “Death Star”.
So then I look up a Stargate guild and messaged the lead council member, saying the same thing, and they get back to me almost immediately saying that the Death Star would immediately one-shot a Borg Cube but they would never be able to do it again to another Cube. And I took that wisdom back to my guild and we were mollified, and for one moment the Nerd World was peaceful.
Reply from evilsoup:
An image depicting the story of the “Judgment of Solomon”, where Solomon is labelled “stargate fandom”, and the two women are labelled “star trek fandom” and “star wars fandom”. The Star Wars lady is standing grumpily with her hands on her hips, while the Star Trek woman gestures with open arms. Between the two of them, on the floor, is a baby in a wicker basket. Solomon sits over them in judgment.
Borg would assimilate the Death Star on first encounter. There’d never even be a fight.
The Borg’s first move is often to just beam drones over and start trying to assimilate people and technology.
I’d love to see the Jedi response to this. Who wins, borg personal modulating shields or lightsabers and force push?
…and what happens to the force when a Jedi is assimilated? Does the borg colective suddenly find out they had a lot of high midichlorian count drones in storage?
I think you’re probably going to end up getting into a lot of the metaphysical/philosophical/quasi-magical aspects of the force with that question.
The force isn’t just about how many midichlorians you have in your blood. The midichlorians help facilitate the physical connection to the energy of the force, but one still needs to be open to it mentally and spiritually. It is almost routinely demonstrated that connecting to the force requires discipline, meditation, and “clearing the mind”.
I’d argue that because the Borg are connected to the collective, they would be incapable of forming that connection. Drones don’t really have a mind or a spirit of their own. They can’t clear their mind. Literally, they can’t stop the constant stream of information, so long as they’re connected to the collective. And that’s to say nothing of the spiritual aspect.
Really, the force connects all living things. In a way, it’s a kind of a collective of its own. I feel like the Borg would have to be disconnected from their collective to feel the connection to another, but once you disconnect a drone, it’s ceases to be Borg.
I don’t know. We’ve seen at least two Borg queens and Locutus, and they were individuals within the collective. I wonder if a Jedi or Sith could be controlled by the Borg as part of the collective, but still be able to use their powers.
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you can’t teleport through shields
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The transporters thing always infuriated me, even as a kid. You can’t beam through shields, right? So, in Star Trek battles when the enemy’s shields go down it’s always, “Let’s teleport our guys in and have a pitched hallway battle with pew-pew guns, damaging random stuff and losing many of our own dudes,” and not, “Start transporting the enemy’s pilots and gunners into space, so we can just park someone in the driver’s seat afterwards and fly away with their ship.”
The main problem you’ll encounter in a Star Trek vs. Whoever matchup is not the technology and power levels between the combatants, it’s that everyone from the Star Trek universe is fucking stupid, both our Federation people and all the various chaotic evil bad guy alien races. Even the Borg.
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no, the real reason is scanners, trek ships would know the entire layout of the enemy including any weak points in seconds and blasting them in short order with its phasers/disruptors, meanwhile SW still aims ship guns like it’s 1940 on the USS Colorado (BB-45).
Imagine this: the death star, slowly maneuvering around to get a firing angle on the strange “federation”(some strange new rebel group that the empire has been encountering lately) outpost situated on some moon, when suddenly a cruiser sized ship drops out of hyperspace way closer than the mass of the death star should have allowed, yet still outside the death starts turret range (how could they know?), when suddenly it shoots a “particle lance” that is able to dig a hole into your entire 3km thick armor in minutes (while 3km of steel is nice and all, a phaser can dig through a 15km asteroid in like 30seconds) and then drops what you can only guess as some sort of space torpedo into the hole, that then blows up inside the death star with an explosive yield that would wipe out an entire city in seconds, most likely directly on top of the reactor core, giving us a big boom.
like the shields all the ships in starwars have?
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but if “technobabble” is the reason the shields don’t apply for teleporters, we can just have technobabble for why star trek shields don’t work against the death star’s lasers