• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    7 months ago

    That is fair, too, Germany’s minimum wage is €12 which is slightly more than half of their neighbouring Switzerland’s 23 CHF per hour. I bet tons of people would be willing to drive a tram if they payed more.

    That said, I don’t think it’s nice to refer to immigrants as “cheap labour from overseas” especially when the alternative is literally children.

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      7 months ago

      That said, I don’t think it’s nice to refer to immigrants as “cheap labour from overseas”

      Do you think the ruling class see it as anything other than?

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        7 months ago

        The ruling class of Germany…? The fuck? On every democracy index Germany places 14th or higher.

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            Germany on-budget allocation is 477 Bn Euros and their off-budget special funds are 869 Bn Euros, as long as people vote for who is in power then German Billionaires are far below them on the food chain.

            Do I think backroom deals occur? Yeah, enough to put them at #14 in the democracy index instead of #1. That’s what that number means, how compromised they are on a scale. The German ruling class are the average people.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index

              According to this, my country, Australia is tied with 14th and 100% there is a ruling class who favour corporate lobbying and billionaires over everyone else.

              This ranking means jack shit. The only way you’re not going to have a ruling class is to be a true democracy, a direct democracy, and not have a class of people dedicated to leading for you. Anyone else is too easily and systematically bought out.

              I entirely reject your premise that being 14th in a democracy ranking means you don’t have a ruling class.

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                That’s because Australia is lower than Germany on that particular list. Australia has a massive corruption ring particularly in NSW, but they also have housing projects, single-payer medical, and full subsidized higher education degrees.

                TBH I agree they should be ranked lower, they’ve been declining in the score given by Economist Intelligence Unit since 2012, I expect their score will continue to decline in 2024’s rankings.

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                  It’s 12 and 14, barely a difference.

                  Stop being so delusional about your country.

                  You had corrupt politicians selling masks during Covid and getting kickbacks, you allow politicians to also be lobbyists, that’s institutionalised corruption.

                  62% of Germans feel government corruption is a big problem in your country.

                  https://www.transparency.org/en/gcb/eu/european-union-2021

                  You have a ruling class and you’re burying your head up your arse to pretend you don’t.

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                    7 months ago

                    Only 44% of Chinese are worried about Corruption, are you saying that means China has a more functioning democracy than Germany?