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      they add preservatives because there is water

      the shipping costs are higher

      it’s just all-around modern wasteful

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          It’d probably be better if people refilled, but the plastic goes into the waste stream, so that’s definitely not good. (I’m skeptical of how much gets recycled, even if you do the right thing and put it in the recycling bin)

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            In my dreams of bettering consumerism, I often think a lot about refills. We waste so so so so so much money on packaging and it’s all waste. You could get one plastic cereal box and refill it 100x at Walmart with a dispenser. What blows my mind is that you can do all of this with exchange programs. We already do this with the big plastic water jugs. We used to do it with glass milk bottles. It’s insanity to keep buying shampoo that comes in the same bottle but get extra trash with it every time.

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          Btw plastic bottles are also bad for you. BPA was the worst endocrine suppressor of them all but, make no mistake, all plastics are endocrine suppressors. BPA just wound up being the scapegoat. Microplastics in our blood aside, whatever you put into plastic will end up being a vehicle for toxins. While eating/drinking from plastic is really bad, one doesn’t usually appreciate the surface area of our skin.

          Plastic is only safe for surfaces that we rarely interact with.

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      Less efficient in terms of transportation - you’re shipping a whole bunch of water that doesn’t add to the cleaning, which takes up more space, so less soap is being carried, etc.

      Plastic packaging vs paper packaging for some solid soaps.

      Some shower gels have microplastics for added abrasion, but so do some soaps tbf. Still, less good at cleaning because solid soaps involve more scrubbing.

      Often can’t get everything out of the bottle. Some bottles don’t allow you to take the cap off and fill them with water to fully empty them.

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        Some shower gels have microplastics for added abrasion, but so do some soaps tbf. Still, less good at cleaning because solid soaps involve more scrubbing.

        Congress passed a law banning these in 2015. That’s not to say micro plastics aren’t still present in some, or that they didn’t find loopholes, but the plastic beads in body wash issue was actually being addressed.