• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    The press reported that Donald Trump said he was a serial rapist who liked to just walk up and ‘grab them by the pussy.’

    The press reported that Donald Trump had gone on Howard Stern’s show and talked about how he was allowed to walk into the dressing rooms of the Miss Teen USA pageant.

    The press reported that Donald Trump called American prisoners of war cowards; while comparing his tom cat days as his personal Vietnam.

    Don’t blame the press, blame the voters who heard about Trump and decided they were okay with him because he hated the people they hate.

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      There’s a difference between reporting on the candidate and giving him free air time by broadcasting his rallies and speeches live. Most of the 24 hour networks (CNN especially) ran out of significant things to report on Trump relatively quickly, but they knew Trump stories (negative or positive) were huge for ratings, so they would cover everything he said. It’s estimated he got $2 Billion worth of free airtime this way. For every important story you mentioned, there’s days worth of mindless coverage the media companies churned out for ratings, and it absolutely helped Trump get elected.

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        People perceive as important that which is given lots of exposure.

        I believe it’s called the “Halo effect”.

        That’s why people pay attention to, say, what movie celebrities say in subjects that have nothing to do with acting or movie making, to the point of paying much less attention to what subject specialists say than to what those celebrities say. If you thing about it, in absolutelly logical terms, the opinions of a well know movie actor on, say, poverty, have about as much value as the opinions of the local street cleaner (in fact, probably less value, as said street cleaner is likelly to actually be poor him or herself and thus know more about it) and yet people will actually pay much more attention to what said actor has to say on that subject.

        So Trump and others like them don’t even need much more airing of their actual words for this to work: the more they’re talked about the more important they will be perceived to be and hence when they do get their actual words aired the more attention people will pay to their words and even the more likely they are to trust those words (because he’s an “important” person).

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      It’s not necessarily as simple as actual mutual hatred. That only explains a fraction of his votes.

      His voters want to believe that if something is okay for the president, then it’s okay for them, even if it’s not.

      All his voters have “bone spurs” of some kind, so they want to enable people with “bone spurs”, and vote for Mr.Bone Spurs, even if trump would gladly fire someone for having “bone spurs”.

      They hate everyone else and he hates everyone else, so they feel represented, even if he hates them. What good has he ever done for the demographic that voted for him and paid his bills? Absolutely nothing. It’s one big ass grift.

      That also turns it into a sunken cost fallacy for a lot of them. They lie to themselves, because they’re too vain and afraid to face their mistake. The extremism plays into this as well. Once you cross a point of what is normal morality, it gets considerably harder to walk back from there.

      If Trump really hates immigrants, then why does he keep hiring them at Mar-a-Lago? The answer is simple: money. He has absolutely no interest in cutting off the supply of cheap workers. The extremely expensive wall construction also didn’t work in any meaningful way.

      The only thing he did successfully was to rile up a lot of angry people just to collect their money.

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      Human are way more irrational that we care to believe, which is why all that exposure made people feel he was important which in turn increased the attention they paid to him and the chances of them voting for him.

      It’s quite a common and massive error amongst the most politically-aware types to confuse the way in which politics are approached by themselves and others with whom the generally discuss politics (and it’s almost always other politically-aware types who care to discuss politics) with the way in which most people out there approach politics.

      Marketing works, so it makes sense that when it comes to people who are not strongly political and hence basically relate to it as they would to brands, marketing in politics works.

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        Irrationality isn’t an excuse. To me, blaming the media for Trump is like blaming candy makers for obesity.

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          Why not blame both?!

          It’s quite the hypersimplist take to look for a single entity to blame on a complex social subject. Blaming only Trump for this is like blaming murders in the US on only the murderers, ignoring the policies on guns in that country that make it more likely that murders get commited: those who only blame the murderers, by being bound by such an axiom, can only conclude that lower murder rates in other countries are because human beings in the US are somehow more prone to murdering that elsewhere, an interesting conclusion.

          Shits do shit because they’re shits AND because they can, because they get away with it, because they’re better off doing shit and even because doing that kind of shit is lauded by the wider society. Only the first condition is due to the shits themselves, so you need to look elsewhere to find out why the remaining conditions are also true.

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            I don’t blame the media because ‘pussy grabbing’ and ‘I like soldiers who didn’t get captured’ and all the rest were covered extensively.

            The truth was out there, people chose to ignore it.

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          This is happenning everywhere.

          The US just has this strange mix of a less-than-Democratic Power Duopoly system, a Press totally captured by political forces and heavy on Propaganda, low average quality Education for a Developed nation and excessive nationalism and delusions of grandeur that makes people be a lot less critical than they should of the system they live in.

          I expect that the average natural stupidity in the US is no greater than elsewhere, it just seems that stupidity goes a lot further there and learned stupidity is a lot more cultivated by mass media.

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      It also works vice versa, you all need to learn that making life decisions to spite your parents isn’t something to be proud of. Make decisions for yourself and smart ones at that.