• Alsephina@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      Lol what? Putin was picked by the US and believes in private property and capitalism/liberalism. He’s a liberal.

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        8 months ago

        Putin was picked by the US

        I could easily say that for many other current/previous seemingly democratically elected rulers or outright dictators of underdeveloped or developing countries, starting with Kissinger and continuing it with Blinken now, but about Putin? You need to put some evidence, or at least some plausible mental gymnastics, behind this claim so as not to be ridiculed left and right.

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        8 months ago

        Liberalism does not just mean capitalism. Most of Liberal thought is about political rights, the kind of political rights that Putin obviously has no care for.

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          8 months ago

          about political rights

          Which stops the moment you use force, riots, and violence to sabotage liberal governments like MLK and communists like Mandela did. And liberals did not like those people at the time.

          Communists had to pry these concessions from liberalism with organized violence, don’t pretend like liberalism did these things. The lgbt liberation movement waved the flag of the legitimate vietnamese government during the US invasion. Marsha Johnson, Leslie Fienberg, communists.

          “The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative.”

          - Malcolm X

          "who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”

          - MLK, 1963

          Liberals’ reaction to the genocide in Palestine and lack of support for Hamas, PFLP, etc has made it clear to me and most other communists how true this is.