it is so dystopian…

  • nivenkos@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    106
    ·
    8 months ago

    How long until people will be carrying Raspberry Pis over the borders for their own hotspots? /s

    It’s crazy how quickly mass censorship is becoming commonplace though. From shadowbanning on Reddit and Twitter, to court blocking in the UK, Spain and Italy.

  • viking@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    46
    ·
    8 months ago

    AirVPN is an Italian company incorporated in Rome.

    Of course they comply. 99.9% of VPN providers are however not domiciled in Italy or elsewhere in the EU, and don’t give a flying fuck about Italian demands and jurisdiction.

    This is a total non-issue.

    • pH3ra@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      33
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Exactly: Italian companies (like AirVPN) are now forced to comply to the new law, but being a member of the EU means you cannot forbid other EU countries to sell you their products. So any Italian citizen has still the right to purchase the same service from any other Country, thus stifling their own economy.
      The current Italian Government keeps fucking themself in their own ass with this kind of actions: they get bribed by big companies (in this case Comcast’s Sky and DAZN) and keep putting in serious difficulties small local companies, because of their total inability to think even a single a step ahead

      • viking@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        8 months ago

        Not really. The article mentions exactly one provider that doesn’t accept Italian users… And if you look into AirVPN, you’ll find that it’s an Italian company… i.e. the only provider actually within the realm of Italian cease & desist orders. Nobody else cares whatsoever.

  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    8 months ago

    There’s another one after airvpn? That was because they had the headquarters in Italy so they had no other choice.

    • Moonrise2473@feddit.it
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      24
      ·
      8 months ago

      They will just buy a VPN from a company that isn’t incorporated in Italy (airvpn is based in Italy so they were forced to do that)

      And everyone in Italy need to be forced to get a VPN as we (I’m Italian) gave the keys to a few copyright trolls with no supervision or repercussions for wrong blockings.

      Saturday afternoon my uptime Kuma telegram bot started to send me hundreds of notifications “your websites are down!” And I panicked. I literally had no idea what was going on. My server was ok, why I couldn’t access my websites? Rebooted 5 times, still down. Cloudflare tunnels were giving a weird error. After two hours of troubleshooting and still hundreds of down notifications I just gave up. “Maybe it’s an issue with cloudflare” - I thought. I disabled the telegram bot and I went to sleep.

      It was the fucking copyright trolls that blocked fucking cloudflare

      And no official media talked about this. When Facebook has 3 minutes of downtime, the news on TV act like Italy was cut out from the world for a week. Here the copyright trolls blocked the biggest CDN in the world for a fucking day and the media fucking ignored the issue. Not a single news about that. The block was silently removed, and it never officially happened.

      I hope that this disaster triggers the EU to forbid a platform like this because this is too dangerous. What if next time instead of blocking cloudflare accidentally it’s blocked “accidentally”?

  • MyNamesNotRobert@lemmynsfw.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    I was in Italy in maybe 2013 or 2014 and every vpn ever was blocked. The only one that wasn’t blocked was the one running on my home server back home. Even mcdonalds wifi in Methsota US isn’t like that.

  • MissJinx@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    22
    ·
    8 months ago

    The Italian population is very old. This old generation of white man can’t die fast enough

    • sudneo@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      8 months ago

      This whole thing happened while a young woman is in power. This has to do with submission to economic power, not with gender and age.

      • nihilvain@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        8 months ago

        I think from her part it was more about planting the seeds of a censorship tool than pleasing economic powers. Right-wing scum always attack freedom of speech first.

        • sudneo@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          8 months ago

          I don’t think this is needed to implement censorship. It’s Italy, I know better than thinking something is done out of malice, when it can be the result of incompetence. I completely believe this is some idiotic implementation of what football an TV economic powers wanted. Either way, this idea that everything bad is because “old white men” is bs. We don’t even need meloni, we can use the dear iron lady as an example…class and economic positions count way more than age and gender, ultimately.