• Wxnzxn@lemmy.mlEnglish
      142·
      1 年前

      It’s pretty telling a platform like YouTube really only gets fully enjoyable with an adblocker, sponsorblock and this. I wish PeerTube had a lot of good creators, but last time I checked (years ago, admittedly) it was mostly conspiracy theorists and cryptobros.

      • Molecular0079@lemmy.worldEnglish
        58·
        1 年前

        The problem with PeerTube is that there’s no built-in way for creators to get paid. If there are no ads or sponsors, then the only alternative is some kind of value for value system like what Podcasting 2.0 has. Until some kind of well integrated funding system gets built for PeerTube, creators really are not going to be incentivized to publish stuff on the platform.

        • lohrun@fediverse.booEnglish
          10·
          1 年前

          At this point I’m down with paying a monthly subscription to a creator for content. I’ve never signed up for any creator’s pattern or anything because how the system is currently set up. I know some creators switched to posting less frequently because their more frequent posting appeared to be hurting their view count due to YouTube’s algorithm. I am so willing to pay a creator directly for them to go back to making more frequent content (and content they actually enjoy and not stuff just for views)

          • lackthought@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            191·
            1 年前

            my only issue with this is eventually people will hit a financial limit and only be able to support a few creators, leaving others without funding

            I’m following over 30 youtube channels, even at $1/month per channel that would still be $30/month which is too much for me honestly. not to mention the fact I would have to manage 30 different subscriptions

            I’d like a youtube premium style subscription where I can specify a group of channels and the money gets distributed to them only

            this way my money isn’t going to conspiracy channels, and I would only have a single subscription to manage

            • lohrun@fediverse.booEnglish
              4·
              1 年前

              Does nebula have enough content to be worth it now? I haven’t heard anyone with a sponsor spot for nebula in a few years now

              • Orphie Baby@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                1 年前

                I don’t know how much content would be “worth it” to most people. I just subscribed for Lindsay Ellis coming back, since she’s no longer uploading to YouTube due to the “git her b****, it’s her time” cancelling bullshit.

          • Kilamaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            1 年前

            If you are willing to pay… then why not yt premium ? A cut goes to google, sure, but it goes to creators, based on your watch time, without falling into having to support 1-infinite channels etc. Plus no ads without any tricks

            • lohrun@fediverse.booEnglish
              6·
              1 年前

              I already pay for YouTube premium but that doesn’t change how creators make content. The YouTube algorithm and its mystery has really changed how people make content over the years. There have been people I’ve watched for 10+ years now and it’s sucks to see them have to chase the algorithm to maintain their livelihood. If I could pay a creator directly to get more content, I gladly would

        • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
          4·
          1 年前

          Best I can think of, would be implementing Librepay into PeerTube and make payments easy af.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
          3·
          1 年前

          Ooh! Thanks for the tip! Dumb question, Peertube federates, right? Where you can get a feed of all subscribed channels from lots of instances on one instance? With a quick poke around I’m not seeing username@instancsname so I’m slightly thrown off, but I’ve also only been on the fediverse for like a month

          • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
            3·
            1 年前

            PeerTube is also part of ActiviyPub, so yes it federates.

            I know tilvids.com doesn’t federate directly with anyone, but you can subscribe to any channel on tilvids.com from any other PeerTube instance.

      • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        1 年前

        Don’t forget the PocketTube extension, which allows you to sort subscriptions into self-made categories. Which is shockingly not a default feature.

    • HughJanus@lemmy.mlEnglish
      4·
      1 年前

      I mean yes but also it’s not that hard. Google is not trying to give you a great experience, they’re trying to drive clicks to ads.

  • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1301·
    1 年前

    I’ve used it for exactly three minutes and this is already amazing. I hope it gets integrated into ReVanced and Newpipe.

        • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          1 年前

          Kind of. It’s a desktop web front-end to Youtube. I’m not sure whether it blocks in-stream ads (and I’m not turning off Ublock to find out), but it does basically reimplement the Youtube interface without many of its undesired elements.

            • rtxn@lemmy.worldEnglish
              103·
              1 年前

              If you feel so strongly about the matter, feel free to not use it. Or better yet, contribute to the project to bring it up to feature parity.

              As for the link - I guess whatever parses the URLs on Lemmy doesn’t recognise .video as a valid top-level domain. All I wrote was piped.video, everything else was added by the website.

            • 🇦🇺Baku@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              51·
              1 年前

              I mean, you’re not necessarily wrong, but for some people that is kind of just the appeal. It’s very obviously targetted at a very niche group of people, and if you’re not in that, of course you’ll dislike it

        • Krompus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 年前

          More like Newpipe but it actually works (GURU MEDIATION) and has nice UI. I just found it yesterday on FDroid, I recommend it.

    • Kyogen@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      1 年前

      Thanks, I didn’t know revanced was a thing. I only enjoyed old vanced for briefly in its last days. So good to hear theres still options like this around.

        • Supernovae@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          1 年前

          Honestly ReVanced is quite a bit more extensible than Vanced and works very reliably. Plus it’s open source and you can download it off GitHub. The manager makes downloading patches about as easy as installing Vanced with the manager a few years ago. I’m sure someone will add a derrow patch to Revanced very soon

          • hypnotoad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            4·
            1 年前

            I’ve used vanced and revanced since day one and always checked the stickied reddit post for any update notes before upgrading to the latest patch set. Revanced decided to migrate to Discord which is possibly the dumbest place they could have gone to (read: I don’t know how to use it to quickly find relevant patch notes and am angry about it), and I feel like updating to a new version is a crapshoot.

            Do you know of a better place to find out which versions are compatible with the latest APK and where to get support if something breaks?

            • Supernovae@lemmy.worldEnglish
              5·
              1 年前

              The Manager does a reasonable job identifying patches available for a given version. The Issues page on GitHub has a lot of the bugs laid out. The Releases tab also has the update notes and the website has the patch notes (including required version).

              On the Discord, #announcements has the major update info. #support acts quite a lot like the old Reddit page where people post issues they’ve run into with threaded replies. I agree having a ReVanced Lemmy page would be better than Discord but Discord Posts are shockingly usable imo. Chat and Off-Topic are obviously horrifically unsearchable chatrooms but also aren’t the only resources on the server.

      • Nomadic@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        1 年前

        KIDS. accept it, that’s all who has all this time to watch these dumbed down videos , and what are they attracted to? Apparently gaping mouths.

  • QubaXR@lemmy.worldEnglish
    715·
    1 年前

    Love the idea, but just to be the devil’s advocate, I think it will just mask garbage videos. Currently, the clickbait thumbnails and titles are an indicator to blacklist a channel, without having to waste time watching it.

    • Ultraviolet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      551·
      1 年前

      Unfortunately because of the way Youtube’s algorithm works, even high quality channels are buried if they don’t play the game.

    • ajay@lemm.eeEnglish
      25·
      1 年前

      If you look at the DeArrow website and browser extension pages, I made sure to only use high quality channels as examples (Tom Scott, CGP Grey) to demonstrate how far reaching the sensationalism problem is.

      • StandingPad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        1 年前

        Tom Scott’s thumbnails aren’t that bad IMO, they’re pretty minimal in comparison to some other channels.

        • ajay@lemm.eeEnglish
          71·
          1 年前

          But they are so much worse than they were 6 months ago. He’s gone and ruined all of the old ones too with arrows and more deceptive titles.

      • LichbaneLB@lemmy.worldEnglish
        101·
        1 年前

        CGP Grey is personally painful to me. He used to be a no-nonsense education youtube legend, but in the last few years he’s just maximised clickability - even going thorugh his whole back catalogue and changing titles and thumbnails.

        For example, he made a great video about generative adversarial networks ~5 years ago but now its titled “How machines like ChatGPT learn” - despite coming out before GPT.

        • dack@lemmy.worldEnglish
          11·
          1 年前

          Pretty much every successful YouTube channel edits titles. It’s just part of the algorithm game now. You will often see videos cycle through several different titles shortly after release.

        • Lukeson@lemm.eeEnglish
          7·
          1 年前

          heard its on chromium based browsers. just hope it does not come to Firefox.

          • InFerNo@lemmy.mlEnglish
            3·
            1 年前

            So what you’re saying is that YouTube will become incompatible with firefox?

            • HughJanus@lemmy.mlEnglish
              2·
              1 年前

              Not hard to disguise the browser you’re using. I use Mullvad (Firefox fork) and it will show up as Chrome on the host side.

          • littlecolt@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            1 年前

            For a while, it was getting blocked regularly and a new update would come out that fixed it. Repeat.

            • InverseParallax@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              1 年前

              Let’s be honest, they never took it seriously at all.

              They could push a patch for encrypted streams to chrome and even firefox, basically you need a google account to watch videos, wouldn’t be optimal but they could get away with it.

              • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
                1·
                1 年前

                Hulu with ads displays no ads when watching in a browser with uBlock origin. I don’t know if this is down to lazy design by Hulu or not but it’s another data point

      • dtxer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 年前

        Sadly I can’t find Sponsorblock and BlockTube in the Firefox addon store (Android).

          • Nomadic@lemmy.worldEnglish
            13·
            1 年前

            For this ridiculousness alone I quit Firefox. They absolutely do not care about their users. They also have been pushing a lot of shady things, like running experiments and tracking by default. And ff for Android still doesn’t have printing, 5 years after requesting to add it BACK

        • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          1 年前

          Removing clickbait channels, foreign language channels, livestreams, channels I dislike, and whatever Youtube keeps recommending me over and over no matter how many times I hit “not interested”

        • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          1 年前

          Removing clickbait channels, foreign language channels, livestreams, channels I dislike, and whatever Youtube keeps recommending me over and over no matter how many times I hit “not interested”

  • tabular@lemmy.worldEnglish
    603·
    1 年前

    This add-on needs to:

    • Store unlimited amount of client-side data
    • Access your data for sites in the googlevideo.com domain
    • Access your data for sites in the youtube.com domain
    • Access your data for sponsor.ajay.app
    • Access your data for dearrow-thumb.ajay.app
    • Access your data for www.youtube-nocookie.com

    This add-on may also ask to: **Access your data for all websites

    Is there a better option than for it to need unlimited amount of client-side data? Also, why “Access your data for all websites”?-

    • ajay@lemm.eeEnglish
      431·
      1 年前

      Creator of theq extension here, that is an optional permissions (may ask). It never asks to access to all sites, it only optionally let’s you add support for additional sites such as different Invidious instances. These are arbitrary domains, so it needs permission to ask for any arbitrary website.

      Support for invidious is not actually done yet, so right now, it never asks for permission for any new sites anyway

      The client side data is used to store your submissions to always show your preferred title, even if there is another submission on the server. You can disable this option in the settings

    • whereisk@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      1 年前

      Without having investigated the plug in itself, going by just what you posted: That’s not likely to be a nefarious request, the plug-in needs to store data on your computer. Dealing with large number of titles it makes sense that it would cache things on your computer to minimise overtaxing their servers, to serve you more or less the same data over and over.

  • YurkshireLad@lemmy.caEnglish
    464·
    1 年前

    Google’s algorithm has forced people into using click bait thumbnails and titles. If they don’t attract more views and subscribers, then their channels are not pushed.

    • 80085@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      1 年前

      I think a bigger problem is they demonetize and depromote any video discussing a controversial or kid-unfriendly topic. This affects the actual content.

      Also, don’t forget to subscribe, hit that like button, smash that bell, and leave a comment letting me know what you think!

    • FlagonOfMe@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      123·
      1 年前

      Are you implying that content creators don’t themselves want more views and subscribers? Of course they do!

      “They only use thumbnails and titles that get views and subscribers because if they don’t… they won’t get views and subscribers since Google isn’t pushing their content.”

      That’s what it sounds like you’re saying.

      • aaron_griffin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        251·
        1 年前

        I think the point is that you can’t get more views by being genuine and honest, as the algorithm awards griftiness

          • kmkz_ninja@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            1 年前

            I mean, you just aren’t going to get as many views if you don’t. Veritasium has a video on it, regarding his rubber balls video.

            • AceBonobo@lemmy.worldEnglish
              4·
              1 年前

              Linus also mentioned it, he said he hates doing it but the clickbait videos significantly outperform others.

            • KairuByte@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 年前

              I never said otherwise, but it is possible to be successful without the clickbait. There are a few creators that have managed it. They would just make more money if they went with clickbait.

      • Chreutz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        1 年前

        The point is that channel growth, clicks and interactions as a metric is used more for suggesting videos than relevancy and the likelihood that someone will watch a video to the end.

        This creates a click bait arms race between creators.

      • Move to lemm.ee@lemmy.worldEnglish
        25·
        1 年前

        It’s real easy to solve this problem by just not pushing videos with text, arrows, symbols or reaction soyfaces in thumbnails. The issue is that they push all of that to the top and push everything else to the bottom.

    • ramplay@lemmy.caEnglish
      41·
      1 年前

      The only way to win the game, is to not play in the first place unfortunately

  • verysoft@kbin.social
    365·
    1 年前

    I kind of like seeing the clickbait, it lets me know which videos/channels arent worth my time. I know most use at least a little clickbait these days, but from the better channels its usually managable and still on topic (like the Real Engineering example shown here, whereas the others are complete clickbait that I would avoid).

  • nameisnotimportant@lemmy.mlEnglish
    24·
    1 年前

    I never thought it could be possible to do that, thank you so much for this and making YouTube a better place.

    If someone knows how to get rid of shorts in the search results I’d be most grateful 👌

  • WhoRoger@lemmy.worldEnglish
    22·
    1 年前

    I don’t mind the clickbait as much because I’ve learned to filter the crap out to some degree (following F1 channels does that to a mf), but still, anything to keep the bullshit to a minimum.

    This should be a part of newpipe.

    • SSTF@lemmy.worldEnglish
      42·
      1 年前

      The majority of videos I that pop up on my home feed don’t have clickbait thumbnails. A few admittedly do, but they are usually way toned down and when mixed among other videos in my feed not as vacuous when it’s just a few of them.

      I think the issue can be largely self correcting on the user side if people just take a little bit of effort to curate good content for themselves.

      • WhoRoger@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        1 年前

        Unfortunately, terrible thumbnails and titles are just a part of the culture in some circles, even if the channels themselves make good content. Look at this trash, and these are actually the better ones:

        • BURN@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          1 年前

          Clickbait works

          LTT has repeatedly done less clickbaity titles/thumbnails and their views are noticeably lower. The YT algorithm pushes clickbait a lot more than non-clickbait.

          • Kilamaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            1 年前

            It’s not really yt algorithm that pushes it. People click more on clickbait (duh) so yt sees more engagement so it shoes it more. Blame people, not youtube imo

            • HughJanus@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              1 年前

              It’s a combination of both. Google pushes people into watching random shit rather than a curated feed of their subscriptions. It didn’t used to be this way. YT used to reward subscribers heavily but now creators are dependent on the algo for ~50% of their traffic.