I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don’t, you weren’t paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton’s campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we’re being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election “We’re about to get Brexited.” I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980’s.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They’re the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump’s mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

    • Wilzax@lemmy.world
      84·
      6 months ago

      To be fair, the federal government has very little ability to change abortion policy outside of the supreme Court interpreting the bill of rights as protecting the bodily autonomy of the mother. A constitutional amendment is the only other way it could be done

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
        81·
        6 months ago

        the federal government has very little ability to change abortion policy

        They had the votes to pass the legislation that would federally guarantee a woman’s right to an abortion and they choose not to include it.

        They had the ability to tie access to legal abortion to federal Medicare/caid funding, and they choose not to do it.

        They had the momentum to put a constitutional amendment on state ballots - in much the same way Bush used “traditional family” amendments to put gay marriage legalization on the ballot in 2004 - and they refused.

        They have the ability - RIGHT NOW - to pass state laws that will shield women and doctors from interstate prosecutions and they are refusing to do it.

        A constitutional amendment is the only other way it could be done

        An amendment is certainly one way it could be done. An interstate compact is another. Federal public money and legal protection for physicians is a third way. There are still others. None have been tried. None are being pursued. None appear to be a part of the 2024 election agenda.

        • HandBreadedTools@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          6 months ago

          SCOTUS can tell Congress to go fuck itself for literally any reason. Passing a law saying abortion cannot be made illegal by a state would have done literally NOTHING to stop Dobbs.

          I am so sick of seeing this false rhetoric all over Lemmy, the only thing that would have stopped Dobbs would have been a constitutional amendment.

          • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            6 months ago

            A law passed by congress would have set an entirely different framework thus eliminating the grounds Dobbs relied on. I am pretty sure the justices were pretty clear in the Dobbs decision itself about that.

          • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
            2·
            6 months ago

            SCOTUS can tell Congress to go fuck itself for literally any reason.

            Yes. But then that reason sets off a series of dominoes, as it applies to a whole host of outstanding case law. The reason the SCOTUS gives is incredibly important and not something trivially decided.

            Passing a law saying abortion cannot be made illegal

            Would have overriden a host of state trigger-laws already on the books, forcing the states to re-litigate at the state level and offer liberals ample opportunity to stonewall new legislation in a host of states.

            I am so sick of seeing this false rhetoric

            Democrats crying that they are powerless while insisting that Republicans are omnipotent is the false rhetoric.

            “Government can’t help you, it can only hurt you” is this toxic and corrosive theory that gives license to the worst kind of people to continue doing the most nightmarish things to their neighbors.

    • FoxBJK@midwest.socialEnglish
      11·
      6 months ago

      Given the state of the economy at the time, I don’t blame him for this. He also said he believed marriage to be between a man and a woman back then. He evolved. If Obama joins Joe on the campaign trail I’m willing to bet he’ll be bringing up abortion because it’s getting voters motivated.

      • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        6 months ago

        Sure, but for the proceeding seven years FOCA was not touched. It would likely have motivated voters in the last eight too, let alone now. It is almost cynically insulting if it can be brought up again solely as a campaign tool for voter motivation.

      • go_go_gadget@lemmy.world
        21·
        6 months ago

        Given the state of the economy at the time

        Except that he did fuck all about that either. Zero prosecutions just billions in bailouts for failing corporations while people were losing their homes.