• BB69@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Here’s an idea:

    The Houthi’s can just not launch missiles at ships

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      10 months ago

      I’m tired of this kind of lazy rhetoric.

      Why are the Houthi’s committing violence?

      I have a feeling it has less to do with a foundational nature of evil, and everything to do with a population being impoverished, oppressed, and forgotten.

      Instead of spending 1.2 billion dollars bombing them, maybe purchasing 600 million dollars of their chief export would be a better idea.

      Empower the legitimate businesses and the people in the region who aren’t launching missiles instead of ravaging the region and creating a new generation of ‘militant rebels’.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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          10 months ago

          This what? These people are religious fanatics so self absorbed in superstition and nonsense that they will literally blow themselves up and kill a bunch of people just out having breakfast because they don’t like the hours of operation one group sets for a pile of rocks some other group wants to visit on one day but not on another day. It is their utter lack of empathy and rationality that makes them evil pieces of shit. They aren’t fucking freedom fighters standing up for innocent people. They are morons who want religious control over their own people and every other person, absolute male domination of women in society, minority rule, and the ethnic cleansing of Jewish people from the middleeast.

          With the support of useful idiots as you, of course.

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        The Houthi are the Proud Boys of Yemen.

        After 1/6, instead of arresting the insurrectionists, maybe we should have bought more Proud Boys merchandise? That’s your solution to religious extremists attempting to overthrow the government?

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          Yemen’s chief export is Proud Boys merch?

          Didn’t know that.

          Thanks for informing me and not just being a murderous troll.

          If that’s the case, just nuke Yemen. Explosives are the only real fix for social issues.

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            I was comparing religious extremists in the US who attempted to overthrow the US government with the Houthi who are doing the same in Yemen. The Houthi aren’t the official Yemen government. They are a religious faction who are attempting to overthrow the Yemeni government.

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              Then why did you take my point, employ and empower legitimate Yemen businesses and buy their chief export, flip it around, and say that I was suggesting buying Proud Boy’s merch?

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                Sorry, I interpreted it as supporting the Houthi. That is buy Houthi products from Houthi businesses.

                You didn’t say Yemeni in your reply.

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                  Empower the legitimate businesses and the people in the region who aren’t launching missiles

                  But we got there eventually. All good bro.

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        10 months ago

        Spending 1.2 billion on bombing campaigns keeps 1.2 billion in the American economy. Giving another country 600 million only exports money from their grasp.

        Peace is not the point of the war machine.

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          I want to stop murdering bad people and I want to start rewarding good people.

          Nowhere did I suggest giving the bad people money.

          Watch a man get strong and push thugs out when he has a dollar to defend.

              • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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                I have compassion for the little girl that wants to learn math, not the religious fanatics that would shoot you for teaching her. You can be compassionate for terrorists if you want. Honestly you should move there and join their cause, if you think they’re so great.

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                  You keep goalpost moving and acting obtuse.

                  Your bombs have collateral damage. Your bombs kill the little girl. Your bombs create more extremists to perpetuate what you (very disingenuously) object to.

                  The bottom line is you just want to perpetuate suffering, kill people, and keep military contractors rich.

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      Good idea! Here’s another: UK and US stop interferring in middle east (FYI the palestine problem was worsened by magnitudes by the UK mandate)

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        Yeah let’s just set back and let be bunch of theocratic authoritarians hell bent on developing nuclear weapons and cleansing the middle east of Christians and Jews.

        I have a better idea. How about we isolate them into little spots of desert nobody cares about and if they poke their heads out and threaten their neighbors, we bomb the shit out of them until they figure out that they are the baddies, while the rest of the world moves forward without them?

        Maybe you’re right. Maybe we should just say a bunch of inch deep non sequitors and nonsense like “fyi the Palestine problem was worsened by the west.” That will totally not result in another world war and tens of millions of dead, tens of millions of refugees, and the worst humanitarian crisis in the history of the planet. And let’s do it all in the name of humanitarianism!

        How about no.

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      Actually they can’t, they have a legal obligation under the UN Convention on Genocide to take extra-territorial actions in order to stop or prevent genocide. They are acting within international law. The ships going to Israel despite the active genocide are violating international law and complicit in the genocide themselves.

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        How do the Houthis know which ships are going to Israel? Can you prove they’ve only attacked ships bound for Israel?

        Why is there a 39 nation coalition organizing against the Houthis? Aren’t a lot of those nations opposing Israel’s current actions?

        Do you know the Houthis slogan of, “Death to America, Death to Israel, Death to the Jews, Victory to Islam”?

        You’re fighting for the wrong side buddy

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          Oh I wonder why that may be their message? Maybe because those two have a long history in the middle east in destabilizing it and killing innocent people? Do you honestly believe they hate us because they hate our freedom? Unbelievable.

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            Unbelievable that you defend those attacking random supply ships.

            If they’re innocent, why is there a coalition formed against them?

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              So your logic is if there is a collation formed against someone then they’re bad? What about the axis powers during WW2? They had a coalition against some countries does that mean those countries are bad??

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                There were significantly less nations allied in the axis than what formed against them.

                Nice try tho

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                  Not that your logic makes any sense to begin with because whats right or wrong isn’t dependent on the coalition but, the coalition is only the US and the UK with support (whatever that means) from Australia, Bahrain, Canada and the Netherlands. That’s only 2 countries, If we stretch the “support” that’s 6 countries. The axis powers had 10 countries.

                  https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/11/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-coalition-strikes-in-houthi-controlled-areas-in-yemen/

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers

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                    From the link you posted:

                    Last month, the United States launched Operation Prosperity Guardian—a coalition of more than 20 nations committed to defending international shipping and deterring Houthi attacks in the Red Sea. We also joined more than 40 nations in condemning Houthi threats. Last week, together with 13 allies and partners, we issued an unequivocal warning that Houthi rebels would bear the consequences if their attacks did not cease. And yesterday, the United Nations Security Council passed a resolution demanding the Houthis end attacks on merchant and commercial vessels.

                    Where are you inventing those bullshit numbers?