I just watched some video about Yakutsk Siberia which is meant to be the coldest city in the world. Thought “Those poor bastards, wonder what they need to wear indoors when it is -40 outside.”

Turns out a pissing tank top and PJ bottoms. We really need to start demanding better things in this country don’t we?

I’m also reading a book about coal mining. All the unpaid labour, minimising wages and dodgy things the bosses did then still happens now. Now I’m not a tankie so don’t get the wrong idea here. But why are we all okay living like this I don’t get it? Why is the UK population so forgiving at living it shit conditions.

Also I’m going to jump in before anyone says no insulation keeps you cold in the summer. Insulation works both ways, it can keep heat out or it can keep heat in. It’s better in the summer and in the winter.

Siberia video in question:

https://youtu.be/K0z7Avc9ZtY?si=_KTob2YYMn2HLwkv

Also I hope I havent broken any rules. I can’t see any. This seems mostly news posts but I guess text posts are allowed? Sorry if not.

  • bstixEnglish
    17·
    10 months ago

    Depends a lot on the construction and age, but there’s really no type of construction that doesn’t need insulation.

    There’s a specific UK issue though. For some reason they’re falling behind and have been for some time. F.i. The rest of northern Europe are using triple or quadruple pane windows, while many houses in UK still have single pane windows.

    The windows alone being 2-3 generations behind code is only part of it. Loft insulation is also far behind:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/09/uk-insulation-scheme-would-take-300-years-to-meet-its-own-targets-say-critics

    • Alex@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      Also older housing stock. My house is over 120 years old so that does limit done of what you can do to improve things. That said with decent windows and loft insulation there is something to be said for the thermal properties of a bunch of stone.

      • bstixEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        120 years ago is about the time they started doing double brick walls. Leaving air between the inner and outer brick walls was basically the first kind of insulation.

        In the 1970s they figured out to put polystyrene beads in the space between the walls. This idea has recently been improved by better materials, so it’s still possible to update the insulation on these old houses. Whether it’s financially feasible is a different question.

        Another method is to put more insulation on the inside, but this takes up space and early attempts in the 1950-1980s proved to do very little except creating a fire hazard. If a house has those old panels on the walls, it’s probably better to remove them.

        A neighbour of mine recently put very thick insulation on the outside of the house. Must have cost a fortune and it looks weird, but I guess it works really well. It also requires that all windows are moved, so it’s probably easier to just build a new house.

        So there a few options, but money is likely better spend on changing the roof, windows or the heat source.